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- From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Observations
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- Date: 19 Aug 92 19:27:54 GMT
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- Mr. Mike has suggest that women be allowed to get an abortion,
- if she was raped, the victim of incest, or her life is in danger.
- With regard to the rape and incest exclusions, is the embryo less
- a "person", simply because YOU don't approve of how the z/e/f was
- conceived? Where is the consistancy in that position? And if it
- is NOT a person, then there is no controversy. And as far as the
- woman's life being in danger, apparently you do not know too much
- about pregnancy. A pregnant woman is ALWAYS at risk. Many women
- in America die in childbirth EVERY DAY. And since pregnancy will
- ALWAYS involve a degree of risk to a woman's life, she should not
- be compelled to bear young against her will. Since a man's being
- is never at any risk, he must never be allowed to force that risk
- on someone else.
- And maybe you should examine your own motives. If a woman can
- get an abortion because she was raped, why should she not be able
- to get one if she enjoyed the sex? Punishment for having a swell
- time? Is the z/e/f less a "person" if the sex was forced? There
- must be some principle here that I am failing to grasp. I simply
- want to understand what sexual encounters make the z/e/f a person
- and which ones do not. If the woman agreed to have sex while she
- was drunk, but sobered up the next day, and wished that it hadn't
- happened, would the z/e/f be a "person?" The z/e/f is either not
- a person, or it is. If it is a "person", how can you allow it to
- be disposed of, regardless of the manner in which it was created?
- And if it is not a "person", how can you compel a woman to endure
- the dangers and rigors of pregnancy, against her will?
- Most of us that support choice do not like abortion. But that
- does not mean that we oppose the right of a woman to deicde to do
- something that she feels she needs to do. It is simply not right
- to force women to bear young against their will. And it is truly
- callous of you to discuss the consequences of sex, as if they are
- the same for both men and women! When you can get pregnant, then
- you can talk about consequences. But until you understand that a
- forced pregnancy is the most vile form of slavery, you will never
- understand this issue.
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- "We're going to have the best educated American people in the
- world." Dan Quayle - Sept. 21, 1988
-