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- From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Another good reason to not vote for Bush
- Message-ID: <1992Aug14.172126.26493@advtech.uswest.com>
- Date: 14 Aug 92 17:21:26 GMT
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- DH> = (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- LM> = Larry Margolis writes:
- DH> = Earlier Dougie:
-
- DH> Your statement is a gross mischaracterization of those people who
- DH> call themselves pro-life. Many religious people do offer reasoned
- DH> arguments about abortion which are not based upon the existence of
- DH> God. In addition, there are many non-religious people who oppose
- DH> abortion.
-
- Two responses to this drivel:
-
- (1) I have NEVER heard a well-reasoned anti-abortion argument. At least
- religious fanatics have an excuse. What's yours, atheist?
-
- (2) No. There are very few non-religious people who oppose abortion.
-
- LM> His statement is a generalization, not a gross mischaracterization.
- LM> He is being unfair to those who oppose abortion for non-religious
- LM> reasons, but there are many, many fanatical fundies on the anti-abortion
- LM> side.
-
- DH>Your statement is an appeal to anti-religious bigotry.
-
- What about all the Marching Morons at anti-abortion clinics, Mr. Fake-Ass
- Atheist? Why have we _NEVER_ heard you complain about their
- pro-religious elitism? Hypocrite.
-
- DH>Focusing solely
- DH>on the religious segment of the pro-life movement is designed to appeal
- DH>to anti-religious bigotry, in the same way that focusing on the color
- DH>of a person's skin in a debate about Affirmative Action is an appeal
- DH>to racism.
-
- Ah, the ol' racism re-surfaces. (Where's those cloying "mama" .sigs,
- "Rasmussen"?) Even more amazing, you bigotted piglet, is that
- your second statement is dead wrong. Focusing on a person's skin
- color WHILE DEBATING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION would seem nearly impossible NOT
- to do. We _have_ Affirmative Action because those white folks running
- all the governments and corporations did nothing BUT focus on the color
- of a person's skin in the pre-A.A. days.
-
- Thanks for shining a spotlight on the typical rancidness making up the
- nuttier pro-lifers personalities, almost without exception.
-
- "Focusing solely on the religious segment" of pro-life is focusing on the
- main reason for anti-abortionism. Makes you uncomfortable, huh,
- atheist? For example, we sure as hell have never heard any kind of
- well-reasoned argument against abortion from you.
-
- Try one right now, if you're capable.
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