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- Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 11:08:50 EST
- From: Linda Birmingham <ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Message-ID: <92225.110850ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: WHO OWNS WHO?...or is it whom?...or what?
- References: <1992Aug9.005924.1301@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
- <1992Aug10.131839.16625@mcs.gvsu.edu> <1992Aug10.224355.22522@coopsol.com>
- <1992Aug11.151252.25274@menudo.uh.edu>
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- In article <1992Aug11.151252.25274@menudo.uh.edu> MILLER, JIMMY A. says:
- >
- >In <1992Aug10.224355.22522@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com writes:
- >
- >> Should a mindless fetus, for the sake of it's 'bodily autonomy', be able
- >> to ruin a person's life, damaging them physically, mentally, and
- >> financially?
- >> Gordon
- >
- > Just to be nit-picky, none of these awful things are certain or even
- >likely, Gordon, as you well know.
-
- Mr. Miller it would appear you know nothing about pregnancy.
- Every pregnancy will cause some physical damage. You can not
- compress organs for several months without causing some
- change. You can not undergo massive hormonal changes without
- causing some metabolic transformation. You can not force a
- fetus weighing 6lbs and up, through the vaginal opening
- without causing tearing and subsequent scaring. Then of course
- there is physical damage caused by c-sections. You are aware
- that the US has the highest rate of surgical births in the
- world, aren't you?
-
- Ninety percent of women will suffer post partnum depression
- within the first 10 days of giving birth. Ten percent of
- these will require hospitalization and/or medication.
-
- The financial costs of pregnancy are well documented,
- even in countries that have health care. There is the
- loss of wages due to time off, the additional costs of
- medicine and nutritional supplements to name a few.
- Statistics on single mothers show a higher percentage
- living on welfare or at poverty levels when they left
- school young to start families, than single mothers living
- above poverty.
-
- Mr. Storga knew what he was saying and he was right.
-
- Mr. Miller your repeated trivialization of the effects
- of pregnancy and child birth in this newsgroup display
- a contemptuous attitude toward women. I don't care what
- your views on abortion are, but your dismissal of the very
- real physical and mental stresses that a woman undergoes
- while carrying a fetus to term is either due to ignorance
- or misogyny. Both can be rectified.
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-
- Linda
- --
- They're complicated people leading complicated lives, and
- he complicates their problems by telling complicated lies
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