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- From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
- Subject: Re: Energya and Freedom and Soyuz ACRV and...
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.105700.6152@iti.org>
- Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
- References: <1992Aug14.130334.8888@ke4zv.uucp> <16l1h1INNa8t@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Aug17.154937.24078@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:57:00 GMT
- Lines: 43
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- In article <1992Aug17.154937.24078@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
-
- >Indeed. If we follow the plan of using Soyuz and HL Deltas, the Shuttle
- >fleet is *gone*.
-
- OK, I have posted extensive numbers on the alternatives. Let's see some
- numbers from you. What will the Shuttle do that will not only justify the huge
- expense of keeping it but also pay for the opportunity cost of the cheaper
- infrastructure?
-
- I await your reply.
-
- >With this plan 3/4 of the
- >Shuttle fleet is available for other work than servicing Fred.
-
- Shuttle flies about eight times a year (at least it has for the last
- 2 years and looks like it will do so this year). Since using Shuttle
- as the ACRV will about half the number of flights there will be NO
- non station shuttle flights.
-
- Thus we will be spending $5 billion each and every year to resuply the
- station. That's an interesting number since you could build the
- Porche of ACRV's for that and could do ALL your tasks for 20% of that
- figure.
-
- >As to the $65 million firm price for Soyuz, I've posted about this
- >several times.
-
- 1. That is about three times the price I have seen for a Soyuz. I am
- assuming $100M per Atlas/Soyuz launch even though the actual cost will
- likely be much closer to $75 million.
-
- 2. We are stuck with Soyuz anyway since we won't get an ACRV.
-
- 3. Lots can be done to mitigate this. We can sign long term contracts,
- build in the US under licence, or a number of other alternatives.
-
- Allen
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