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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: Whales and Dolphins
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- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:58:11 GMT
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- In <9208081935.AA29109@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov> roberts@CMR.NCSL.NIST.GOV (John Roberts) writes:
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- >Reread what I posted. Humans take calculated risks, and sometimes there
- >are mistakes in the calculations.
-
- Reread what I posted. There are many people whose job is to save other
- people's lives *regardless* of the risk to their own.
-
- Suppose, for example, the President of United States, or one of his
- family, was kidnapped by a foreign power. Do you believe that the
- United States government would not try to rescue him if it believed
- more than one soldier would die in the attempt?
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- >Whales that beach themselves entirely seldom if ever survive (though on
- >the "R-rated Gory Animal Videos" series commercials on television, they
- >show a killer whale getting its head out on the beach to chomp a sea lion).
-
- Nope. Not true. Not even close. Killer whales have been known to
- deliberately wash schools of fish up onto the beach, then beach themselves
- to snatch up the helpless, flopping fish, and roll back into the water.
- They have been observed and photographed doing this. You aren't proving
- that whales aren't intelligent. You're simply showing how little you
- know about whales.
-
-
- >If whales have anything akin to human intelligence, and if they have a
- >community that communicates and passes down lore, then they must realize
- >that if they beach themselves, they're going to die,
-
- If humans have anything akin to intelligence, and if they have a
- community that communicates and passes down lore, then they must
- realize that if they beach themselves, they're going to be exposed
- to dangerous levels of UV radiation, contract skin cancer and die.
- Ergo, humans cannot be intelligent.
-
-
- >If what the whales do is deliberate suicide, it's even less akin to normal
- >human behavior.
-
- Of course. One human being may voluntarily expose himself to
- dangerous levels of UV radiation at the beach, but certainly
- his entire family wouldn't follow, would they? If one human
- is out drinking with his buddies, gets drunk and jumps into
- his car, his friends aren't going to pile in with him, are they?
- Nah, that could never happen, could it?
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