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- Path: sparky!uunet!hela.iti.org!aws
- From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
- Subject: Re: Energiya's role in Space Station assem
- Message-ID: <1992Aug14.123208.13141@iti.org>
- Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
- References: <1992Aug11.152009.29998@eng.umd.edu> <1992Aug11.175149.29058@iti.org> <1992Aug13.225903.5705@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:32:08 GMT
- Lines: 55
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- In article <1992Aug13.225903.5705@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
-
- >>The DoD is constitutionally forbiden to run under allocations lasing more
- >>than two years and they rarely get them. Yet they build $100 billion
- >>aircraft carriers and other hardware.
-
- >Yes, and the cost overruns are truly horrendous.
-
- When done according to government SOP that is true but not when companies
- put their own money at risk (like the ATF development) things tend to happen
- on time and on budget.
-
- But you are missing the point. Many government agencies routinely make
- multi-year commitments even though you insist that Congress will never
- support it.
-
- >Name *one* major military procurement that
- >proceeded on a fixed price basis with *no* adjustments.
-
- The ATF prototype
- LACE
- RME
- DC-X
-
- I also know of a large number of other programs which where on time and
- on budget but I don't know what type of contract they where. They include:
-
- HARM
- all paveway procurements I know of
- a number of avionics projects I worked on
- several radar systems my former employer worked on
-
- >Congress is
- >notorious for "stretching out" procurement in a way that saves money
- >this year, but adds horrible extra costs in the "out years" if the
- >full procurement ever is actually filled.
-
- Not a problem here since I'm not asking the government to spend anything
- for development. You still seem to have problems understanding that.
-
- >NASA can't legally sign a binding procurement contract that promises to
- >buy X launches for Y dollars from Z corporation over multi-year periods.
-
- Nonsense. They do it all the time. In fact, they are legally required
- to operate this way.
-
- Now what they do lack is termination laibility. However that was passed
- by the full house last week.
-
- Allen
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