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- From: btd@IASTATE.EDU (Benjamin T Dehner)
- Subject: Re: Young earth creationist logic NOT!
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.123156@IASTATE.EDU>
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- Reply-To: btd@IASTATE.EDU (Benjamin T Dehner)
- Organization: Iowa State University
- References: <1992Aug14.205247.163524@zeus.calpoly.edu> <REUS.92Aug19123303@klein.euromath.dk> <1992Aug20.170752.175456@zeus.calpoly.edu> <1992Aug21.122341.26129@city.cs>
- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:31:56 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug21.122341.26129@city.cs>, lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
- writes:
-
- > In article <1992Aug20.170752.175456@zeus.calpoly.edu>skroger@zeus.calpoly.edu
- (Seth L. Kroger) writes:
-
- > >reus@klein.euromath.dk (Jens Peter Reus Christensen) writes:
- > >>Parts of This newsgroup and almost all of Talk.origin exist in order
- > >>to educate the public in the IC (Intellectually Correct) way of
- > >>thinking on issues of origin of biological and geological origin.
- > >>It serves this purpose reasonable well and has no other purpose.
- > >
- > >This is a charge you are going to have to back up.
- >
- > I'm afraid he is right.
-
- Sorry, but this is not 'backing up the charge' as Seth requested. but
- merely reiteration of the same assertion. Furthermore, if I walked into a
- scientific conference with a theory 'the moon is made of green cheese',
- and got thrown out on my ear, should I then cry 'FOUL! conformist conspiracy
- of Intellectually Correct theorists!'?
-
- > As has been pointed out before,
- > evolutionism boils down to belief. There are no
- > scientific proofs.
-
- Christ in a cardigan sweater, not THIS again! The 'you cannot give
- scientific PROOFS and mytheoryisasgoodasyourtheory so whatchya gonna BELIEVE'
- line of tripe. For the buddha-alone-knows-what time, creationist assertions
- and evolution theories are NOT EQUIVALENT.
- Evolution theories explain current diversion of life using well known
- and verified scientific principles and methods; creation theories content
- themselves to 'evolution is wrong, it's that way because God made it that way'.
- Dating methods are consistent from a wide variety of discplines -- several
- types of radioactive decay, planetary formation theories, and geological
- timescales, to name a few. Creationism refuses to explain how all of this
- consistently give the same answer, whether or not it is the correct one, not to
- mention WHY this date shouldn't be the correct one.
- This will do for now, as there are many more complete FAQ's and
- critiques available.
-
- > However anyone who expresses an
- > opinion contrary to that belief is usually `corrected'.
-
- I (used to) teach a basic astronomy course. If someone said 'all of
- the planets orbit the Earth in circular orbits', should I give them double
- points for advancing an 'alternative theory'? Or maybe skip grading at all,
- since everything is 'just an opinion'?
-
- 'Hell is a grossly maligned place ... I must come here more often'
- -- Moon Boy
-
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- Benjamin T. Dehner Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
- btd@iastate.edu Iowa State University
- Ames, IA 50011
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