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- From: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
- Subject: Re: Young earth creationist logic NOT!
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.104236@IASTATE.EDU>
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- Reply-To: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
- Organization: Iowa State University
- References: <63ga03Lg59Ze00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <1992Aug19.124008.16945@pixel.kodak.com> <1992Aug20.171831.346@acuson.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:42:36 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug20.171831.346@acuson.com>, lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
- writes:
- > There is another point I've been meaning to bring up on this thread.
- > The anti-faith side of this debate questions why the evidence points to
- > long times, evolution, etc. Perhaps the "evidence" is not pointing.
- > As an example, let me bring up the old "canals" on Mars topic. They
- > were clear evidence that there was an advanced civilization on Mars.
- > More recent views is that they just happen to be there and aren't
- > evidence of anything. They just appeared to be canals.
-
- Science advances a trial hypothisis that turns out to be wrong when
- better evidence becomes available. Business as usuall. Until the
- evidence for evolution drys up and blows away like the Martian canals
- it IS the evidence pointing.
-
- The Martian canals had one line of evidence that involved an immature
- technology. How many lines of evidence supported by which technology
- support evolutionary theory? I thought so. Bad example, you get
- _no_ scooby snack.
-
- > Ask all the questions you want, but don't be so arrogant to think that
- > God must run the universe on your terms.
-
- You are, I take it, adressing the creationists?
-
- > Perhaps I have an easier time with this because I am a programmer. I
- > can think of variables and structures as real while I know that they
- > are just convenient concepts. I look at evolution the same way.
-
- Being a programmer has nothing to do with it. I'm a programmer (hell, I get
- royalties for one of my programs) and I don't see reality as being observer
- dependent. Tell you what, next time a truck makes an illeagle left turn
- through you just view it as an immaterial data structure and pay someone else
- to tell us how well it works. The truck and evolution are equally real.
-
- Evolution is grounded in reality very firmly as are data structures.
- Incorrect data structures can kill; it is mere bigotry on your part as
- a material being to declare them non-existant upon your whim.
-
- Materialist!
-
- > Drew Lawson If you're not part of the solution,
- > lawson@acuson.com you're part of the precipitate
-
- Dan
- Danwell@IASTATE.EDU
-