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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Subject: Re: 17 Supposed Evidences against Evolution
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.180219.3190@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Keywords: evolution, creationism
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
- References: <1992Aug14.181226.9696@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <1992Aug17.164052.3560@cs.joensuu.fi> <1992Aug18.081207.11835@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:02:19 GMT
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- SCOTT I CHASE:
- |> Sigh... I'm afraid that you have it backwards. It's because of the
- |> abundance of ignorance that they can get away with century-old, long
- |> discredited, arguments and have at least a certain segment of the population
- |> buy the whole argument.
-
- Tero Sand:
- |> There are *lots* of transitional fossils, however,
- |> creationists refuse to call them such. I'm becoming convinced that
- |> *NOTHING* would convince them, no matter how many transitional fossils
- |> are found, ...
-
- It is extremely unlikely that the "evidence" proposed by "creation
- scientists" has anything at all to do with their belief in creation.
- The belief comes first, the arguments are just fig-leaves to rationalize
- the belief for public consumption. IMHO, the only reason these claims
- matter at all is that they are often used to give political cover to
- the promulgation of these beliefs in ways that would be impossible
- without such cover.
-
- See, perhaps, "Persuasions of the Witch's Craft", by T. M. Luhrmann
- (reviewed here recently) for a discussion of "irrational" belief
- and how pseudo-arguments are used to shore up strongly held beliefs.
-
- (I should note that EVERYONE holds beliefs that are not "rationally"
- justified, and EVERYONE is prone to construct "logical arguments" to
- explain why what we believe is justified, although these "rational
- arguments" are not really an accurate account of why we have come
- to believe them. Politics comes to mind, for instance. (Why did
- my fingers try to type "Folitics"?))
-
- --
- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
-