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- From: jft@lonex.rl.af.mil (James F. Tims)
- Subject: Re: Kinesiology - how I heard about it
- Message-ID: <1992Aug14.175416.24749@lonex.rl.af.mil>
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- References: <11AUG199206310035@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <zlsiida.62@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> <1992Aug12.145724.12468@colorado.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:54:16 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug12.145724.12468@colorado.edu> gordon@tramp.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R) writes:
- >zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
- >
- >>I came across the term kinesiology in a Mensa magazine article. The version
- >>of kinesiology they were talking about involved strengthening and weakening
- >>somebody's muscles without touching them - theoretically without them being
- >>aware you'd done it. As pointed out on this group, that's basically an old
- >>trick used by loads of people. I'm quite prepared to believe there is a
- >>REAL science of kinesiology, I just don't know anything about it.
- >
- I find no reference to kinesiology in any of my books. I do, however, find
- kin(a)esthesiology, which seems somewhat like the subject at hand. I studied
- kinesthetics in college as part of my (chagrin) B.S. in Psych.
- Perhaps because chiropracty fails to evoke much enthusiasm from me,
- I have not read about it other than in the Skeptical Inquirer or in
- unflattering footnotes to scientific articles and studies. Can someone
- assure me that this term arose as a necessary adjunct to the language
- to distinguish it from the more ordinary and pre-existing term
- "applied kinesthetics?" Can it have arisen in chiropractic
- literature as the direct consequence of a spelling error?
-
- >
- >What the Mensa magazine was referring to was "applied kinesiology" or AK.
- >Kinesiology is an academic disipline and refers to body mechanics. One of the
- >things that was developed by kinesiologists and used by physical therapists
- >is a means of testing muscle strength by a series of muscle tests. This has
- >been applied by chiropractors in conjunction with certain reflexes and massage
- >techniques to strengthen muscles and balance opposing muscles. It has also
- >been used by the Touch for Health Foundation to teach lay persons these
- >techniques. Some sports medicine people and trainers use it as well.
-
- I also see baseball players make the sign of the cross when they
- come to bat. Common sense leads most people to exercise symmetrically,
- and alert trainers can make suggestions for exercise that do not
- require a magical laying on of hands. Some sports, such as golf
- and jai-lai, produce severe assymetries, whereas running and yoga
- do not. (ASIDE: Yoga can be seen as very like a sport.)
-
- >
- >My experience with AK goes back about 13 or 14 years. While I cannot ascribe
- >specific mechanisms/reasons for how some of the balancing techniques work,
- >when done by well trained, reliable practitioners, it does work. BTW, physi-
- >cians can't tell you ultimately how aspirin works either. The key, as in
-
- Of course it works. Exercise works. Strength exercises for the left
- hand must be persued more rigorously than those for the right to attain
- equivalence or anything near it (assuming one is RHed).
-
- >any healing modality, be it allopathy, chiropractic, oriental medicine or
- >whatnot, is a reliable practitioner. There are lots of flakes who claim lots
- >of things with AK. There are also lots of remarkable things that it can and
- >has been used for. Muscle tests can be biased by the practitioner in very
- >subtle ways. However, once again, the same can be said for MD's. BTW, I've
- >done the above experiment, somewhat modified, in a double blind manner.
- >
- >--
- >Allen Gordon *If the folly of but one of us was changed to*
- >Research Associate *intelligence, and divided amongst a thousand*
- >gordon@tramp.colorado.edu *toads, each would be more intelligent than *
- > *Aristotle *
- Now, you're talkin'! Unluckily, not even an MD guarrantees that
- that you will not become a medical accident statistic. Yoga provides
- systematic approaches to exercise in a kinaesthetic manner that
- requires no mysterious forces to explain its efficacy on
- the body and thereby the mind. (No chanting, please. There is no
- doubt in my mind that if you just keep saying the same thing,
- over and over, until it doesn't make any sense any more, you can
- reach a state of mental oblivion. Some find this enjoyable. Some
- find the mellow haze of bourbon a religious experience.) De gustibus
- non disputandem, or something like that. mhden agon. Nothing to
- excess. (QUICK: A fool admires -- men of sense approve. Correct the
- punctuation! But do it in another newsgroup.)
-
- C'mon, now. You guys tryin' to tell me you don't mean kinesthesia?
- Kinesiology almost looks like...well...some sort of Latin neologism.
- 8^(
-
- --
- jft
- "And if you're a miner, when you're too tired and old and sick and stupid
- to do your job properly, you have to go, whereas just the opposite applies
- with the judges." Beyond the Fringe
-