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- From: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
- Subject: A Reply to Dick Blue
- Message-ID: <920813163414.20200836@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
- Reply-To: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
- Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:01:30 GMT
- Lines: 59
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- Dick Blue says: "One problem with following hunches in the design of
- experiments is that, unless you have the guidance of good sense and some
- experience in the field of investigation, there are too many possible avenues
- to be explored."
-
- In other words, do what was successful last year. Build a Cosmotron - that
- was a great machine. Build a Bevatron - and find the anti-proton. Now build
- the AGS, then CERN, then Fermilab, and then the SSC. (I have skipped machines
- like the PPA and the ZGS that were not even on the track that Dick Blue would
- follow.) It does not take a wizard with a slide rule and APS journals to
- figure out that productivity has decreased with each machine. Measure it any
- way you want, per new particle, per new idea, per technical paper, per
- machine, per dollar, per student. I think that similar things could be said
- about the plasma machines, but I have not followed them as closely. The
- really great and high productivity work was done by Lawrence, Wilson & Co
- building cyclotrons. There was a lot of criticism at the time from the then
- main line researchers about supporting this research with no "experience"
- behind it.
-
- As an exercise to the student, take any famous old building in your city that
- is considered a "treasure" today. Go back and look at the newspapers of the
- day and see how it was received. Take, for example, the Eiffel Tower. It was
- considered an ugly blotch on the Paris landscape when it was built. The
- reactionaries always oppose the new and different just because it is new and
- therefore painful.
-
- At some point, it is time to recognize that one should quit following last
- decades path and to go out and try something new. Anything!
-
- Then Dick says: "You can p*ss away untold time and resources doing experiments
- that haven't a ghost of a chance of turning up anything new or interesting."
-
- I think that is what we are doing now Dick, with the SSC and the big plasma
- machine.
-
- Dick further says: "Just because you want cold fusion to happen doesn't make
- it good prospect for extensive experimentation, especially by people who
- aren't able to accept NO for an answer!"
-
- Drudges who grind down the same old path adding one digit to the measurement
- are useful to people like me that want to look up constants in a handbook.
- But they are not of much use in exploring new territory. Columbus ( who
- somehow is no longer PC ) did not take "NO" for an answer. It *is* true that
- a lot of explorers get lost and are never heard from again. We know the risk
- we are taking.
-
- But I tend to agree with Dick's specific criticism. Dick says Takahashi does
- not make a good neutron measurement. I don't think too much of the heat
- measurement. That does not leave much for the Japanese government to invest
- big Yen. But replications seem to be coming in so either they are fooling
- each other or something is there.
-
- I agree with Dick. (Putting words in his mouth!) The government should only
- fund research where the results can be guaranteed. Those of you able to
- figure out the meaning of research will be able to figure out how much money
- the government spends by this rule.
-
- Tom Droege
-
-