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- From: eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
- Subject: Re: Hide the neutron
- In-Reply-To: logajan@SLEEPY.NETWORK.COM's message of 12 Aug 92 03:06:12 GMT
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- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:14:03 GMT
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- In article <9208120306.AA10493@sleepy.network.com> logajan@SLEEPY.NETWORK.COM (John Logajan) writes:
-
- Okay, I think I understand the "virtual neutron" idea now, and how it
- allows the process to occur even though the "trigger" energy seems
- to be insufficient (which I repeat below.)
-
- If we want to produce neutrons from D, we need a gamma of at least
- 2.45 MeV. Once we have the free neutrons, they can be captured by the
- Pd(104 in this case) and release 7.09 MeV. The net gain is 7.09-2.45,
- or 4.64 MeV.
-
- -- The figure I have been using for the mass of deuterium is 2.01410,
- -- and 1.007825 for the mass of protium (1H1). This gives 2.226 MeV
- -- for the deuterium disassociation energy, which is close to the
- -- "commonly accepted" value. I also have slightly different values
- -- for the Pd isotope weights, but all those are nits.
-
- A "D" which picks up kinetic energy by direct or indirect Compton
- scattering is going to be able to approach the Pd nucleus closer.
- And like a bullet shot into a tank, it is going to bounce around inside
- the lattice for a while, approaching many Pd nuclei in sequence,
- perhaps until probability smiles on it and it is captured. (Heh,
- I can even envision a D caught between two Pd's like a ping-pong
- ball between the table top and a descending paddle board -- brrrrt.)
-
- -- I like the image. :-) My analogy is that the deuterium can get
- -- caught in a vice. (There I was, surrounded by eight Palladium
- -- atoms, and they were all coming after me!) But in any case, High
- -- kinetic energy and lattice vibrations seem to be the best
- -- candidates for bringing things together.
-
- Under this mode of reaction, direct photodisintegration of a D into
- p + n, even if a virtual n, is not required. Maybe we are more
- interested in the Compton scattering rather than gamma capture?
- Ehy?
-
- -- I'm hedging my bets! Seriously, any model which has enough energy
- -- to slam the nucleii together by force, also leads to all sorts of
- -- detectable radiation. The combination of a squeeze and tunneling,
- -- with the incident gamma energy added, has the advantage (in
- -- explaining the data as well as for Mr. Fusion generators) that none
- -- of the intermediates can get out. The new nucleus has lots of
- -- energy to get rid of, but it doesn't all have to come out at once.
- -- Most of the energy would be released as low energy (order of 20 to
- -- 50 KeV) gammas. In fact Pd107 has a beta decay half-life of seven
- -- million years.
- --
-
- Robert I. Eachus
-
- with STANDARD_DISCLAIMER;
- use STANDARD_DISCLAIMER;
- function MESSAGE (TEXT: in CLEVER_IDEAS) return BETTER_IDEAS is...
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