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- From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
- Subject: Re: FTL Microwave Signal
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:41:02 GMT
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- In article <20AUG199213365493@elroy.uh.edu> elee969@elroy.uh.edu (Brown, William J.) writes:
- >In the December 1991 issue of 'IEEE Microwave Guided Wave Letters', two
- >researchers apparently claim to have measured a pulsed microwave signal in
- >a waveguide that was travelling faster than light. Has anybody heard anything
- >about this? The reference is,
- >
- >G.C. Giakos and T.K. Ishii, "Rapid pulsed microwave propagation",
- >IEEE Microwave Guided Wave Lett., vol. 1, pp. 374-375, Dec. 1991.
- >
- >
- >
- >William Brown
- >Applied Electromagnetics Group
- >Univ. of Houston
-
-
- This has come up several times here recently with no one seeming
- to express an opinion. First, a further discussion of this
- can be found in three letters in IEEE Microwave and Guided Wave
- Letters 2:199 (1992). As I said a while back responses 1) and 3) are
- a bit lame in that they are invalid if speeds > c actually exist.
- Response 2) probably gets to the heart of matters, but is interestingly
- uncompelling.
-
- As far as the results, they seem to imply that the leading edge of
- a certain non-TEM signal expands in a rather planar fashion
- (i.e. they go at the speed of light at objects on the centerline
- of the waveguide and at c/cos(theta) at angular
- deviations off of this line). Thus as one approached pi/2
- off of the waveguide centerline, the 'leading edge of the
- detected pulse' would approach infinite speed.
-
- To put it mildly, this seems hard to believe, but of course
- stranger things have been known to occur and I can think
- of no *compelling* reason why their results are incorrect
- (though probably they are).
-
- To add to what I said earlier, I have received Giakos's dissertation
- from University Microfilms and can find no things that jump out
- as being patently wrong or misleading. My guess is that the
- solution to this conundrum is in an assumption about the electronics,
- however, the solution is certainly not obvious to me and bears
- investigation.
-
- dale bass
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- C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
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