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- Subject: Re: A "preferred reference frame"
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- From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
- Date: 15 Aug 92 17:49:08 GMT
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- hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson) writes:
-
- >The following is a science fictional excursion discussing the possiblity
- >of space-time having a preferred frame of reference without violating
- >relativity. My request is that someone tell me how we know that it cannot
- >be true.
-
- [description of a physics in which, to paraphrase a bit, instantaneous
- communication can occur, but only along a preferred set of spacelike
- surfaces]
-
- We do not know that this cannot be true. Your statement that there would
- be no problem with causality is correct, since spacelike communication-->
- causality violation depends on the ability to change the spacelike
- surface (or in SR, the inertial frame) in which the communication is
- instantaneous, and this proposal explicitly removes the possibility.
-
- It does "violate relativity" in the sense that it denies one of the
- basic postulates, namely that *all* the laws of physics are the same
- in all inertial frames. It doesn't completely tear it apart, though;
- it just turns it into a theory of some special subset of physics,
- including all physics currently known. It doesn't violate causality.
-
- Rather than just say that the "ether" has the property that c is the
- same in all frames, I'd say that the "ether" is only an ether for
- these extra, instantaneous interactions, and has no relevance to
- anything else.
-
- This is, as others and I have pointed out before, a nice self-consistent
- way to put faster-than-light travel into science fiction. It isn't
- at odds with any data and doesn't introduce the possibility of time
- travel into the past. All one needs to assume is some nonlocal
- phenomenon which disobeys relativity in this way.
-
- The other side of the coin is that there is absolutely no evidence for
- any such thing, and no need to introduce it other than that it might
- be nice to have. Relativistic covariance has turned out to be an
- extraordinarily successful framework in which to construct a model
- of physics, and to most of us, at least, there seems to be no reason
- to abandon it. But nothing currently known from experiment rules out
- extra physics of the sort you describe.
-
- --
- Matt McIrvin, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
-