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- Path: sparky!uunet!sun-barr!ames!pacbell.com!well!sarfatti
- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: cos(reflection phase beam splitter) = 0 ? NO FTL?
- Message-ID: <BsyoHE.37H@well.sf.ca.us>
- Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:53:38 GMT
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- From aephraim@physics.Berkeley.EDU Thu Aug 13 19:00:06 1992
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:59:22 PDT
- From: aephraim@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Aephraim M. Steinberg)
- To: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us
- Subject: Re: ftl device visualization
-
- Dear Dr. Sarfatti,
-
- You write :
- >So that the locally observable probabilities to measure the
- receiver
- >photon polarization eigenvalues are conserved and we get
- the connection
- >communication equation
- >
- >p(e) - p(o) = sin2x cos(phi+m)cosb (6)
- >
- >
-
- where you have defined b as the phase shift upon reflection
- at your 50/50 beam-splitter.(With respect to the
- transmission phase shift.)
-
- It can be shown from unitarity or from time-reversal
- symmetry that this phase is always plus or minus pi/2.(For
- any lossless beam-splitter, not just 50/50.) Thus cos(b) is
- always 0, so p(e)=p(o), and there is no communication.
-
- Aephraim.
-
- P.S. Thank you for your "visualization" of the transmitter
- portion.Is the receiver portion just a calcite crystal,
- where you monitor the difference between the e and o rates?
- YES! (Sarfatti)
-
- (Just in case this objection has a flaw, so I can try to
- calculate explicitly what I would say the result is.)
-
-
- Sarfatti response: At last a refutation that makes sense. If
- true it would definitely mean that my device would not work.
- On the other hand is it really true? Or is it a circular
- argument? That is, is the "proof" that b =pi/2 really from
- causality rather than unitarity or time reversal? From my
- equations I do not see why it must be true. So I would like
- to see the formal proof before I withdraw my claim. Then, if
- it is true, we must see what happens if there is absorption.
-
- However, I cannot find any information that b = pi/2 in any
- book on optics. To the contrary for external reflection from
- a single surface the reflection phase shift is pi not pi/2
- in discussions of Fresnel equations. For example Fig.6.2-2
- p.206 of PHOTONICS by Saleh & Teich (Wiley 1991) says for TE
- wave "External reflection. The reflection coefficient is
- always real and negative, corresponding to a phase shift of
- pi" The only case, and it is unusual, where the reflection
- phase shift is pi/2 is in internal reflection of a TM wave
- at a unique angle of incidence corresponding to total
- internal reflection. Why should a beam splitter be so
- special as not to obey Fresnel equations?
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