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- From: snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Faster than Light Comm.
- Keywords: Snarfy's Reply to Scott Chase
- Message-ID: <4032@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>
- Date: 13 Aug 92 01:42:06 GMT
- Sender: snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
- Reply-To: snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
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- Scott Chase writes:
-
- > I have deleted the entire text of snarfy's reply because it's all old stuff
- > we've been through before.
-
- I have no way of verifying that statement, but I think it's probably a
- case of peer group intimidation that stifled any further discussion if
- you've been through this before.
-
- > It seems like we have reached an impass in this
- > discussion, with the positions of both sides clearly known to the other,
- > with neither side willing to concede the field.
-
- Oh please ..you make it sound like war or something.
-
- > Fine. But before this fades away all together, I have the following
- > comments for you (snarfy) to consider, if you dare.
-
- (groan...)
-
- > You started this thread with what amounted to a request for information
- > from the group.
-
- Not so. I started this thread by making an assertion that FTL
- communication was possible then offering technical details.
-
- > The responses of Dave Ring, Dale Bass, and others have all been
- > uniformly in agreement.
-
- I think they uniformly agree that they would rather I take my arguments
- elsewhere , while at the same time not bothering to reconcile their
- arguments with Ohm's or Kirchoff's laws . I will gladly leave the
- newsgroup ,once you or anyone else proves that you own the disk space I
- take up . This isn't a popularity contest.
-
- > It seems to me that you now have a choice/opportunity. You can either
- > decide that the entire group of people to whom you are speaking are plain
- > stupid for disagreeing with you or that maybe you can learn something
- > from what they have said.
-
- You seem to be implying that you and those who agree with you comprise
- the entire group of people who monitor these discussions. I doubt it. I
- seldom accuse people of stupidity. For one thing I do not engage stupid
- people in conversations. So I really don't think that about you or
- anyone else who's responded negatively to my assertions. You may be
- misinformed ,or too lazy to respond in any meaningful way to the issues I
- raise-(>``Electrons? Electrons? We don't need no stinking
- electrons!'')- but I don't think you're stupid. Some of the private
- responses I've received, the other hand ,speaking of the serious
- inquiries by professionals , often have technical arguments much more
- difficult to overcome than those made by yourself or the persons you
- mentioned.
-
- > Only one of those options gives you the possibility of knowing more
- > physics than you started out with when you initiated this discussion.
-
- The serious responses indeed prompt me to open a book and learn more
- physics, or get help from third parties. Still , none of these
- objections have yet convinced me to adopt a belief system that
- continually strives to rule out the possibility of FTL communications. To
- the contrary , the more I learn about nature , the more I'm inclined to
- think positively . I don't think that anything that needs to be done as
- much as breaking the light barrier needs to be done, for the sake of the
- survival of the human species, can really be impossible.
-
- I think the list of my options is orders of magnitude longer than you
- claim it is.
-
-
- - Snarfy
-