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- From: zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)
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- Subject: Re: mathematician's marrying ages.
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- Date: 19 Aug 92 21:07:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug19.185215.303@cc.tut.fi> jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia) writes (clarifying previous statement about loneliness -> illness/mortality
- link):
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- >I have read from the newspapers about animals in zoos, how they
- >are lonely (alone) and actually die for their loneliness (also after
- >their partner has died).
- >I have also read about how some elder people die soon after
- >the dead of their wife/husband.
-
- First, I must say that I am not challenging the connection you are asserting
- on the face of it. This is some of the stuff that I research, so it's not
- like I don't think there's a strong possibility (factualhood?) of it existing.
-
- That said, the relationship between bereavement and spousal illness or even
- death does seem to be a pretty well-established one, thought the mechanisms
- are unclear. We don't know what portion of the illness is attributable to
- behaviors (drinking more, eating less or just generally taking less care of
- one self after your spouse dies) and what portion is attributable to more di-
- rect neuroendocrinological modulation of immune function. To say that animals
- are dying from "loneliness" may be anthropomorphosizing (sp?), though.
-
- >So, the researchs I have read about tells that
- >people married lives longer and are more healty than
- >people not married.
-
- OK, this is a wholly separate issue and is the one that I was taking issue
- with in your previous post. You had said that people who were lonely (alone?)
- were more likely to develop mental problems (or health-related problems
- more generally). I know of no prospective study which
- illustrates this point. If you don't start with as similar as possible people
- and follow them prospectively, there's no way you can interpret the cause
- to be "marital status" or "loneliness." It could be, for example, that
- some people don't get married for a 3rd reason (very anxious about initiating
- social relationships) and that that social anxiety is contributing to their
- increased mortality.
-
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