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- From: boshuck@triples.math.mcgill.ca (William Boshuck)
- Subject: Re: Expansion of set theory
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- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:44:08 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug7.002122.24601@access.usask.ca> choy@skorpio.usask.ca writes:
- >Suppose I take an oft used theory of sets and tack on axioms that are
- >consistent but independent. The things that can be proven may alas
- >be unrealistic, but any axiom used to prove an unrealistic result can be
- >either negated or left to rot. So set theory grows. Is there a good
- >algorithm for tacking on consistent and independent axioms to a
- >set of axioms?
- >
- >Henry Choy
- >choy@cs.usask.ca
-
- I don't think that there could be an algorithm per say, to
- do this sort of thing, but there is a natural heuristic which
- is probably how the axioms of set theory got there in the first
- place. Namely, when things exploded after the Russell paradox,
- the idea to put things together was to begin with a more or
- less concrete model of what was to become set theory and then
- start writing down thigs which just had to be true of this model.
-
- The model is, of course, V (the cumulative hierarchy) given by
-
- V_0 = the empty set
-
- V_1 = P(V_0) (the power set of V_0)
- . .
- . .
- . .
- V_{omega} = the union of V_n for n<{omega}
-
- and continue FOREVER taking power sets and then unions and power
- sets and then unions...
-
- The union of all these things is V. Taking this informal
- description of V and then looking at the axioms of (say ZFC)
- set theory we see that they are virtually "obvious" in V.
- (There might be some quibbling over the axiom of choice, but
- I don't want to get into this. If you want to drop the "C" from
- ZFC, fine; but I still say that it's more or less obvious from the
- description of V that I've given.)
-
- One way to go beyond ZFC is to look at "axioms" which seem to say
- that V contains very large sets, that is, we might be led to
- believe that anything we do to "push up" the cumulative hierarchy
- ought to be more or less harmless if it does not immediately
- give rise to one of the classical paradoxes. The search for such
- extended "axioms of infinity" is part of the study of "Large
- Cardinal Axioms". Informally, a large cardinal is a cardinal
- number which is so big that the assumption that it exists is
- not even provably consistent with set theory (in ZFC). So the
- existence of such a thing is a genuine addition to set theory.
-
- The reason why these axioms are sometimes referred to a axioms
- infinity is that they behave with respect to a "modest" V
- similarly to the way that the axiom of infinity behaves with
- respect to the axioms of ZFC less the axiom of infinity. That
- is, the hereditarily finite sets form a model of ZFC less the
- axiom of infinity AND the axiom of infinity (the existence
- of omega, the first infinite cardinal) allows the construction
- of the hereditarily finite sets as a SET; an "inner model"
- of ZFC less infinity, if you will. The way things usually go
- with large cardinals is that the assumption that they exist
- allows the construction of an inner model of ZFC (e.g., in any
- model of ZFC plus "there exists a strongly inaccesible cardinal"
- one can build the cumulative hierarchy up to such a
- cardinal. This segment of V is a SET in the model AND it is a
- model of ZFC. Of course its not always this simple.).
-
- An intersting facet of all of this is that large cardinal axioms
- actually have a bearing on relatively small things, like Borel
- sets of real numbers, and sets of natural numbers in the definable
- hierarchy. I hope to understand this phenomenon one day.
-
- There is some discussion of large cardinals in Shonfield's (spelling?)
- book on mathematical logic and is Jech's book on set theory. There is
- also a book by Drake on the subject of large cardinals. My personal
- knowledge of the stuff (which is not very much yet) comes from seminars
- given at McGill (by M. Makkai and S. Mann) on the topic.
-
- I hope that I have been helpful.
-
-