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- Subject: Re: Non-standard integers.
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.133344.385@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
- From: wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor)
- Date: 18 Aug 92 13:33:42 +1200
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- >>model of the integers, in which there would be two (nonstandard) integers,
- >>n and n+2, both of which would be divisible by all standard integers.
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- >It's a reasonable question (to which I don't know the answer) what the
- >result of Kemeny is that wft is misremembering.
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- Sorreeee; bit of a boo-boo here. Brain damage my only excuse.
-
- Should be: there is a nonstandard integer n, which is divisible by all
- standard integers. Thus (n+1) and (n-1) are not divisible by any of them,
- and are thus "standardly" twin primes. Of course, they may still be
- composites in the whole nonstandard system. So this doesn't really help out
- on the twin prime conjecture.
-
- However; as I recall, Kemeny observed that (n-1), (n+1) are the *only* possible
- primes in the "row" of numbers .... , n-2 , n-1 , n , n+1 , n+2 , n+3 , ...
- Hence there are no 3-tuples of primes of type (p, p+2 , p+4) in the nonstandard
- part of the model, (or any n-tuples with n>2).
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- Thus, the n-tuple-primes conjectures of Hardy would all be false. The only
- problem with this whole operation is showing that there can be a model with
- *all* the "rows" having such an `n' in them. Kemeny reluctantly left this
- loop-hole unplugged.
-
- Has anyone heard of the paper ? Or more precisely, followups to it ?
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- Bill Taylor wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz
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- Stop press ! I have just scaveged up a copy of Kemeny's paper.
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- It is "Undecidable problems of elementary number theory",
- Math Annalen, Bd. 135, (1958), pp 160-169.
-
- I would still appreciate hearing of any follow-ups, though !
-