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- From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
- Subject: Re: Suggestibility of environmentalists
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- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:12:15 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug11.032629.13241@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
-
- >Isn't such a study a waste of time?
- >Also the first assumption....that these two professions....toxicology
- >and epidemiology are "environmentalist" professions...what about
- >medical doctors in general...or engineers in general..they also
- >work with the environment?
-
- Maybe you should check out the article.
-
- >Let's take one example, asbestos: after all the data that has been
- >amassed on the hazards to humans of this substance....aren't there
- >better things to be doing than analyzing some little quirk in how
- >scientists might recognize or evaluate it....sort of blind man's
- >bluff?
-
- Not at all. You see, if scientists are not proerly evaluating the
- damager that asbestos causes then maybe we should spend less money
- getting rid of it.
-
- >Isn't it much more urgent to start curbing the world wide pollution
- >of organic solvents, toxics in general, radioactive waste...starting
- >with our own efforts in these areas?
-
- Well, you see, you're falling right into the trap that is being
- described. If these substances were described to you in terms of
- their effects without mentioning their names would you find them so
- frightening?
-
- >What's the point? Dioxin has already been shown to be one of the
- >strongest toxics .....most hazardous....
-
- Well, Mike, turns out you're a bit out of date.
-
- The way they decided that dioxin was dangerous is that they fed
- massive amounts to rats and then assumed that the effects scaled
- linearly. Further anlyses has indicated that the effects on rats were
- through a mechanism that won't work in humans and that there was a
- threshold effect.
-
- In other words, the jury is still out on dioxin, but current evidence
- does not indicate that it is anywhere near as dangerous as we thought.
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