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- From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:24:13 GMT
- Subject: Re: How to dispose of NiCads?
- Message-ID: <7480104@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
- Path: sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpfcso!myers
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- References: <1992Jul27.161240.4905@nynexst.com>
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- > :Intentionally discharging nicads to avoid "memory" is a waste of both time
- > :and cells.
- > :
- >
- > Discharging is recomended by manufacturers of cordless phones and
- > such.. are they just blowing smoke?
-
- This question also came up in some e-mail I received - here's my reply:
-
-
- >
- > You seem to know about this...
- >
- > why exactly do manufacturers of
- > nicad batteries and manufacturers
- > of rechargeable devices such as
- > Norelco Shavers, Remington, etc..
- > tell you in their manuals to run
- > the batteries down before re-chargeing?
- > lance
- >
-
- Two reasons - one is possibly valid, the other isn't. The latter first:
-
- The folks writing owner's manuals for consumer electronics aren't
- necessarily battery experts; the NiCd "memory" myth has been pretty well
- established, and if the manual writer even bothers to ask the engineer about
- it, they're liable to hear, "Oh, yeah - they've got some sort of memory
- problem. Better tell 'em to run 'em down." No one complains, as the unit
- still works as advertised, even though the run-down is unnecessary and
- might even shorten the battery life by a few cycles (esp. if we *are*
- talking about a battery and not a cell - deep discharge of a NiCd *battery*
- runs the risk of reverse-charging those cells which discharge earlier than
- the others, and so damaging them).
-
- The slightly more valid reason is the way most folks use these appliances.
- If not told otherwise, people simply leave their appliances connected to the
- charger when not in use. While NiCds *can* be trickle-charged, there may be
- a slight problem with overcharge (and the resulting voltage depression) if
- this is done; it's unlikely, but it could happen.
-
- Also, don't assume that all of these appliances use NiCds; gel-cell lead-acids
- are also very common in consumer gear, esp. when a heavy load is expected
- (motorized equip. such as shavers, for example), and are somewhat better
- suited to continuous trickle-charge.
-
- Bob M.
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-