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- From: kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose)
- Subject: Re: Clinton on Economics (transcript of speech)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.183319.22388@tandem.com>
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- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:33:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug21.165652.3018@news.ysu.edu>, ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
-
- > But tools and labor saving devices are not the same as *CAPITAL* or
- > *CAPITAL FORMATION*.
- >
- > Petty clarified that labor saving devices were *ARTE*.
-
- What in the world is *ARTE* ? And if you don`t consider tools and
- labor-saving devices as capital, then you are defining the word
- "capital" different than its common usage. This is your prerogative,
- I suppose, but leads to confusion is discussion about economic
- issues.
-
-
- >
- > Large U.S. corporations are concerned that their RATE OF PROFIT be
- > as high as possible which means that they want to make as large
- > a profit as possible with as little investment in capital as possible.
- >
-
- Time out for an economics lesson here.
-
- Any company, including the "large U.S. corporations" you feel
- compelled to single out, would like to be as profitable as possible.
- Not only do they want to make as little investment in capital
- as possible, they want to spend as little on labor as possible.
- The key, then, is they want to keep costs as low as possible.
-
- Your implicit claim that corporations are only concerned with
- minimizing capital expenses but ignore labor expenses is inconsistent
- with the first part of your sentence, in which companies
- try for as high a rate of profit as possible. In fact,
- companies consider various combinations of capital (or whatever you
- want to call tools & equipment) and labor in producing output,
- looking for the minimum cost method of production.
-
- > ALL THE INDUCEMENTS IN THE WORLD FOR LARGE CORPORATIONS TO GAIN
- > HIGH PROFITS DO NOT SERVE TO ENCOURAGE LABOR SAVING DEVICES IN
- > MANUFACTURING.
-
- This is unusual economic reasoning. Do you seriously believe that
- if a company can spend $10,000 on a device that will save them
- $20,000 in labor costs they will not do it? You can't even reconcile
- that (if you believe it, which your "ALL THE INDUCEMENTS ..."
- paragraph implies) with your previous claim that corporations want
- a high rate of profit.
-
-
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