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- From: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Corporations (was Re: Libertarians live in Virtual Reality)
- Message-ID: <183122@pyramid.pyramid.com>
- Date: 18 Aug 92 23:16:16 GMT
- References: <183073@pyramid.pyramid.com> <1992Aug16.171252.13195@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- In article <1992Aug16.171252.13195@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
- mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant) writes:
- |>
- |> I always thought that the original purpose of corporations was to
- |> shield investors, not participants, so that participants who could not
- |> qualify for loans could obtain risk capital. It would also have been
- |> used to allow participants to invest a limited amount of risk capital
- |> in an enterprise, without being personally liable for the losses if
- |> the enterprise failed.
- |>
- |> Given that the board of directors of a corporation theoretically
- |> represents the investors (that is, the owners), and the officers
- |> represent the directors, it seems to me that neither the directors nor
- |> the officers are personally shielded from any responsibility for
- |> wrong-doing. The only shielding that is inherent in the model of a
- |> corporation is shielding from monetary liability in excess of the
- |> amount invested.
- |>
- |> Am I wrong about this, or was the corporation initially intended by
- |> at least some of its proponents to shield unscrupulous managers?
-
- The issue is not what was "intended" but what became the effect. The
- effect was that a corporation is a legal entity which is capable of doing
- damage beyond its value.
-
- Given the existence of partnerships, why the
- innovation? Obviously to provide some form of (financial) protection
- beyond that afforded by partnerships. Why? Protection from what?
- Obviously the big consequences of big actions. The corporate form
- then allowed for "shielded bigness" which meant (potentially) big
- damage without (full)liability for the consequences. A distortion.
-
- Secondly, damages are usually assessed against a corporation as an
- entity, but not as a 'personal' claim against individual
- persons (owners, officers, directors, employees). Would you be
- more cautious if you knew you could lose $10,000 of your companies
- money or if YOU could go to jail? When a person steals, he can go to
- jail. What about when a 'corporate participant' steals under the
- umbrella of the corporation?
-
- But, the easiest way to imagine the consequences of incorporation is
- to create a thought-experiment where it doesn't exist. Let the model
- come to steady state. What do you think you'd find?
-
- Paul Collacchi
-