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- From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke)
- Subject: Re: Standard model of QSOsex
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.141015.8650@cs.ucf.edu>
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- Organization: University of Central Florida
- References: <1992Aug18.133126.8313@cs.ucf.edu>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:10:15 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug18.133126.8313@cs.ucf.edu> clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas
- Clarke) writes:
- > In article <Bt5syD.Ipt@well.sf.ca.us> metares@well.sf.ca.us (Tom Van
- Flandern)
- > writes:
- > >
- > > Earlier, I wrote:
- > >
- > > >> Quasars are not, of course, *predicted* by the standard model. They are
- > > >> just part of what it attempts to explain, ad hoc.
- > >
- > > and yaron@astro.as.utexas.edu (Yaron Sheffer) replied:
- > >
- > > > How about this prediction: ... In short: QUASARS!
- > >
- > > I don't think that can be reconciled with
- > > observations. Nice try, though. -|Tom|-
-
- Sorry about repitition, but I had on my applied mathematician's
- order-of-magnitude-hat when I wrote:
-
- > I think it can be reconciled. The nearest quasar is about z=.1.
- > This is pretty close. Say N(Z) = Integral of O to Z of Z^3*Z^2
- > (Z^2 for area of shell at distance Z), so N(Z) ~ Z^6. (I neglect
- > here csomological-model dependent corrections to the integral).
- > With Zmax=3 as per observation, and N(.1)=1, as per observation,
- > the N(Zmax)~ 10^5. Which is order of magnitude agreement with
- > observation - not bad for cosmology.
-
- Taking my formula literally N(3)/N(.1) times one close quasar =
- 730 million quasars. Probably a bit high.
-
- Using N(Z) ~ Z^5 (to cover my cosmological sins - I'm too lazy to
- look up the exact formula for volume differential at Z - which was
- my motive for doing order of magnitude to Zmax first), then
- N(3)/N(.1) times one close quasar = 24 million quasars which is
- about right.
-
- Maybe blue dwarfs aren't needed after all :-)
- --
- Thomas Clarke
- Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL
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