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- From: turner@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu (George Wm Turner)
- Newsgroups: sci.astro
- Subject: Re: the moon
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- Date: 16 Aug 92 20:12:11 GMT
- References: <1992Aug16.094059.830@sfu.ca>
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- >In article <1992Aug16.094059.830@sfu.ca>,
- > jfaubert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jean-Paul Faubert) writes:
- >I was listening to Quirks and Quarks today on the CBC while driving
- >down to Seattle today and they had a spot on dinosaurs. They were
- >discussing the differences between the Mesozoic world and the present
- >world, and they (whoever the scientist was) stated that the moon was
- >much closer to the earth at that time and so would have appeared much
- >larger in the sky. My question, for someone out there who could
- >take the time to answer it, is, how is this possible?
- > [deleted]
- >Jean-Paul
-
- in the end it deals with the conservation of angular momentum. the earth's
- spin slows down due to friction caused by the tidal effects of the
- moon. the source of this friction include the ocean tides as they slosh
- in & out of tidal areas and friction caused by the tidal distrotation
- of the solid earth; the solid earth too deforms as the earths' oceans
- thought the magnitude of the distortion about one third that of water.
- mesaurements put the tidal distortion of the solid earth at about 20cm.
- this friction is expressed as heat and the dissipation of energy is
- callculated to be about 2 billon horsepower (2,000,000,000)
-
- anyways, this friction robs the earth of rotational energy and slows
- the earth's spin; (the length of an earth day lengthens by about
- 0.002 second per century.) but the total angular momentum of the
- earth-moon system must be conserved causing the moon to move farther
- out. to put it another way, since there is less angular momentum in a
- slower spinning earth at the center, a way to get more angular
- momentum is to move the mass of the moon farther away thus keeping
- the total amount of angular momentum constant. (this theory of tidal
- evolution was worked by george darwin, charles darwin son!)
-
- a further consequence of the moon moving farther away is that it
- slows down in its orbit in accord with kepler's third law. this leads
- to a longer month since it takes longer for the moon to complete an orbit.
- (slower speed & longer path). since the days are getting longer
- and the months are getting longer at some point in the future the length of
- the day will be the same as the length of the month. at this point the
- moon will be stationary over a single point on the earth. the earth & moon
- will be locked face to face (remember, the moon is currently locked
- with the same side always pointing to the earth) the sun will still
- rise & set (sunrise/sunset is due to the spin of the earth) but the
- length of the day will be about 1130 hours instead of the current 24;
- about 47 of our current 24 hour days.
-
- as an exercise, how many full moons would an earthling observe a day?
-
- george wm turner turner@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu
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