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- From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
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- Subject: Re: Trivial questions about the Big Bang
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.030245.3764@cco.caltech.edu>
- Date: 13 Aug 92 03:02:45 GMT
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- cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters) writes:
-
- >In article 202351@uctvax.uct.ac.za, ashric01@uctvax.uct.ac.za () writes:
- >>The COBE data for the 3K radiation has to be corrected for the earth/sun/etc
- >>motion through space. (ie Doppler shift has to be 'removed') This conflicts
- >>with may understanding of the special theory of relativity. (ie there is no
- >>absolute rest frame) The 3K radiation seems to form an absolute rest frame
- >>for the universe? Is this a problem ? If not, why not?
-
- >The special theory of relativity does not state that there is no
- >absolute reference frame; nor for that matter does it state that there
- >is. The special theory of relativity states that the speed of light
- >appears the same to any observer in an unaccelerated reference frame.
- >This has the consequence that two observers in different unaccelerated
- >reference frames can not see any differences between them by carrying out
- >physical experiments in their own frames and comparing results.
-
- >The observers can, however, determine the relative velocities of their
- >reference frames by observing experiments. In our case we can measure
- >the red shift of the 3K background over different parts of the sky and
- >determine out velocity with respect to the reference frame in which the
- >centre of mass of the universe is at rest. This does not conflict with
- >special (or general) relativity. There is nothing special about the
- >centre of mass of the universe with regards to relativity.
-
- What is the "center of mass of the universe" and how would one go about
- finding it or measuring anything relative to it?
-
- By measuring the variations in the CBR, we can determine our motion relative
- to the Hubble flow, but the concept of a center of mass for the universe
- is new to me. Can someone explain?
-
- keith
-