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- From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
- Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
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- Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:54:16 GMT
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- In <1992Aug21.110428.10268@m.cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
-
- >I am disgusted to read that the United Way of Suburban Chicago will
- >now support racially and religiously discriminatory programs.
- >According to Eric Zorn's column on August 16, the suburban United
- >Way's new "antidiscrimination" policy says that groups "organized by,
- >on behalf of, or to serve persons of a particular race, religion, sex,
- >national origin" are now eligible for funding.
-
- >The column says this change was made to allow funding of the Boy
- >Scouts (who exclude gay and atheist boys). But thanks to the new
- >policy, a KKK youth program designed to serve only white Christians is
- >now eligible for United Way funding.
-
- Point 1: BSA has ALWAYS been an organization with religous ties. Any idiot
- could figure that out from the start. If you ever attended a meeting, you'd
- note that they meet in churches.
-
- Claiming that Jews are equivalent to atheists is morally reprehensible. Along
- with Islam, Judaism and Christianity both come out of the Abrahamic tradition.
- At least you could use a religion that is not tied to the Old Testament as
- your example.
-
- >Is it possible to create a policy that supports discrimination of
- >atheists and gays but excludes discrimination of Jews and
- >African-Americans? If not, should the BSA be excluded or should the
- >KKK be included?
-
- Easily. Athiesm is not merely not Christian. Stick to arguing about gays.
- Your argument collapses when extended.
-
- You evidently believe that no non-profit religious organization (or any
- organization with religious ties) deserves any support from private busi-
- ness (or, evidently, anyone else). Presumably, support for AA is out the
- window. Catholic charities is quite obviously discrminatory. I imagine that
- I could find dozens of organizations whose ties render them incompatible
- with your standards.
-
- [There are also some distinct differences between being gay and being black,
- but I do not wish to dilute my argument.]
-
- Paul A. Lane
-