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- From: cpk@sequoia.cray.com (Chris Kruell)
- Subject: Re: Men's marathon
- Message-ID: <cpk-120892080317@harrier.cray.com>
- Followup-To: rec.running
- Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
- References: <36681@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <1992Aug10.234613.17211@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com> <1992Aug10.175247.6706@mic.ucla.edu>
- Date: 12 Aug 92 08:17:12 CDT
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- In article <1992Aug10.175247.6706@mic.ucla.edu>, rush@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu
- (Brian Rush Bored Grad Student) wrote:
- >
- > In article <1992Aug10.234613.17211@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com> dick@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Richard Chimenti) writes:
- > >In article <36681@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, jalfano@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Clams! Clams 4 sale!) writes:
- > >|> During NBC's prime time coverage of the Olympic
- > >|> men's marathon, there was some third commentator
- > >|> at the desk who would comment on the runners'
- > >|> "stride angle" and angle of hitting the pavement.
- > >|> Am I the only viewer who found this guy's comments
- > >|> ridiculous?
- > >|> Joe Alfano jalfano@uscd.edu
- > >
- > >You are not. The fellow spoke to three factors which in my opinion
- > >overlooks 90% of the physical, mental and environmental factors
- > >involved.
- > >
- > >That is not to say that the points he makes are not valid. He was,
- > >however, blatantly incomplete.
- >
- > The 10% he mentioned can be the difference between not even making the
- > olympic team and placing top 6 or so in the olympics. In a way, he
- > was not incomplete at all, since the things he mentioned are
- > overlooked by many runners, whereas the 90% he didn't mention are
- > noticed and worked on by everyone and thus not as big a deciding
- > factor in close races. That guy definitely knew what he was talking
- > about.
- > -BR
- > >
- > >-Dick Chimenti
-
- I agree with Brian. Not only are form and efficiency often overlooked
- by many runners, but form and efficiency have a great deal to do
- with endurance and physical and mental factors. And it doesn't matter
- if you're on the verge of being world class or on the verge of trying
- to finish a 5k race. The better (i.e. more efficient) your form,
- the better you're going to feel later in a race, which definitely
- feeds back into your psychological self-evaluations as a race proceeds.
-
- Regarding the men's marathon commentary, I haven't watched all of
- NBC's coverage yet, and I only saw the first 10 or so miles last
- night. I thought the added "stride commentary" opened up new
- insights that most purported fans of the sport don't really
- know anything about. There's only so much you can take re. "so-and-so
- just opened up a 10-meter lead on the pack", "mr. jones overcame
- the traumatic death of his parakeet to be here today", etc.
- The insights re. stride angle was something I hadn't heard about
- before, though where one lands, and how high one bounces are
- commonly (or so I thought) coached techniques. The more energy
- you can expend going forward, as opposed to going up and down, or
- "braking" yourself, the better you're going to run.
-
- Sprinters, jumpers, and throwers aren't the only ones who need
- to practice technique--distance runners can benefit greatly, too.
-
- In article <1992Aug10.224344.17733@panix.com>, paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
- wrote:
- >
- > Ridiculous? Now I finally know why I can't run sub 6 minute miles! I have an
- > improper leg angle and I'm running with my "brakes" on. Once I make the proper
- > adjustments I expect to reduce my 5k times by at least a minute. And when I
- > stop my leg crossover and excessive bouncing I will save close to a city block
- > of running in the race! It all makes perfect sense to me. I'm ready to blow
- > away all my pr's.
-
- Well, I'm glad to see you learned something ;-) ;-) ;-)
-
- Chris Kruell
- cpk@sequoia.cray.com
-