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- From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
- Subject: Re: Intellectuals and totalitarianism (was Re: WORLD GOVERNMENT)
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- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:48:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug19.134718.25883@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> bunker@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Alex Bunker) writes:
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- >From: bunker@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Alex Bunker)
- >Subject: Re: Intellectuals and totalitarianism (was Re: WORLD GOVERNMENT)
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- >Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:47:18 GMT
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- >In article <1992Aug19.033102.28965@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
- >>f > "Frank" (Robin Collins)
- >>
- >>f > Some extremely intelligent people have been fundamentalists, or dogmatists.
- >>f > Such is fuel for fascism. I think some of the libertarians are right in
- >>f > this area of thought (and which is why people like Chomsky call themselves
- >>f > libertarian socialists, I suspect.) Any thoughts?
- >>
- >> On what? That we agree that being an intellectual is no safeguard against
- >> falling for totalitarian's propaganda? Or that being an intellectual is
- >> no guarantee against being wrong, or just ignorant and stupid? Makes one
- >> wonder why so many intellectuals are of leftist persuasion, doesn't it?
- >>
- >> Sometimes I think your average blue-collar Joe Steelworker has more sense
- >> and wisdom than all the lefty intellectuals infesting academia and the
- >> "elite".
- >>
- >>
- >>--
- >>Gary Strand Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
- >>strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
- >
- >and that explains why your average Joe blue-collar steelworker is a socialist
- >and votes NDP in Canada,Labour in the UK,SDP in Germany,
- >socialist in france ,liberal-democrat in the US etc..
-
- You are just about flat out wrong. Joe blue-collar steelworker in
- the United States is fairly apt to be Republican. Many blue-collar
- fields are Republican conservatives. You are making an unfounded
- generalization to suggest otherwise.
-
- >and Idiotic intellectuals like William F Buckley and Milton
- >Friedman debate in an esoteric vaccumn totally out of
- >touch with the cruel realities of poverty homelessness
- >desperation crime etc...
- >
- >Your average Joe Bluecollar steelworker is a very sensible fellow
- >and knows who's side he is on.
-
- Which is just as apt to be conservative in the United States as it
- is to be liberal. Don't assume that because the liberal Democratcs shout
- that it is *they* who support the poor blue-collar workers that all of
- the poor blue-collar workers support *them*. Many, many do not.
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