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- From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
- Subject: Re: w and ps don't agree + Typical UN*X-attitude
- Message-ID: <1992Aug19.134729.6415@news.uni-stuttgart.de>
- Date: 19 Aug 92 13:47:29 GMT
- References: <Bt6Lty.Cv7@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> <1992Aug19.071445.4360@ircam.fr> <1992Aug19.084554.10580@reed.edu>
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- In article <1992Aug19.084554.10580@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug19.071445.4360@ircam.fr> fingerhu@ircam.fr (Michel Fingerhut) writes:
- [stuff deleted]
- >
- >There's bound to be 6000 pieces of software that will all edit the
- >utmp. I could write an emacs mode for it in 15 minutes, and I have
- >written C code to edit /etc/utmp (in a specific way, not to wipe out
- >the old entries). But the problem doesn't show up often enough to be
- >worth the trouble of writing Real Software.
- >
- >What I usually do is load /etc/utmp up in emacs, find the offending
- >tty entry, find the name of the user, and replace the first character
- >with a null. Seems to work good enough. Wiping the entire entry with
- >nulls is probably better, but takes more keystrokes.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- That is a typical UN*X attitude. I believe it explains a lot of the things
- a UN*X newbie simply cannot understand i.e. the existence of a large
- number of different dialects of UN*X, the haphazard way a UN*X system is
- constructed (with oodles of expansions and extensions and drivers and
- and and.... all written by different programmers with different ideas of
- interfacing and different qualification), the different ways of adding
- modifiers to a command (some with "-", some without, some with a "-"
- preceding every single modifier), the moronic idea of naming a command
- after its programmers and not finding a mnemonic to indicate its use
- plus, finally, the many incompatibilities between different flavours of
- UN*X that I had to grapple with endlessly while setting up a
- seven-machine-LAN at our university institute.
-
- I'll leave it at that, even though I could go on like this for a while.
- This posting might attract flames anyway. If it does - flames to
- /dev/null!
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