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- From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
- Subject: Re: Octal chmod status
- In-Reply-To: jerry@incc.com's message of 19 Aug 92 20:50:56 GMT
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- References: <Bt0EEL.H1q@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> <1992Aug19.130558.8488@news.eng.convex.com>
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:43:49 GMT
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- Jerry> == Jerry Rocteur <jerry@incc.com>
-
- Jerry> Please excuse my ignorance but is perl a shell ????? is this not
- Jerry> comp.unix.shell ?? I may be wrong but *who* want to be pestered
- Jerry> with perl tidbits ?? I don't, if I did I would join a perl
- Jerry> newsgroup ??
-
- Perl is suitable for many of the tasks that shell scripts (in sh, ksh,
- bash, or *blech* t/csh) are often written to solve. It's also usable as
- a shell with a little work, but it's not primarily an interactive shell.
- (Not that there are that many people I know using the Bourne shell
- interactively anymore, if they can help it.)
-
- Jerry> I work on Pyramid, SCO, AT&T 3B2, Ultrix, Sun and I have not
- Jerry> seen perl on any of these machines, now these companies may be
- Jerry> wrong for not supplying what seems to be a great product, but it
- Jerry> is not on the popular systems and I subscribe to
- Jerry> comp.unix.shell.
-
- You edit with vi (or ex or ed), I presume. You use sh, or csh if you
- have a BSDish vendor. You put up with vendor-supplied mailers. You use
- and enjoy NIS for host resolution on a Sun. You don't do any networking
- on the 3B2. You use OpenWindows instead of MIT X. You don't plan on
- compiling anything on Solaris 2.0.
-
- If any of the preceding are false, what's wrong with perl? It's not
- supplied with those systems, well, too bad, TCP/IP isn't supplied with
- the 3B2, emacs doesn't come with any of those machines, Sun doesn't ship
- MIT X or a resolving libc.so...and you'll never have a C compiler if you
- move to Solaris 2.0 :)
-
- Where'd you get your news software? I didn't know it was supplied with
- any of those systems...
-
- perl is freely available from archive sites, CD-ROM distributors, and
- the like. It *runs* on the popular systems, and even MS-Loss. If we
- limited ourselves to what was shipped by the vendor, we'd get that much
- less use out of our Unix systems.
-
- Jerry> If perl *is* a shell, then I apologize, but if perl *is* a shell why
- Jerry> is this person doing 'perl -e .......' ????
-
- Ever do sh -c .....?
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