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- From: terry@ithaca.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
- Subject: Re: Restrictions on 'free' UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug17.162946.7751@gateway.novell.com>
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- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:29:46 GMT
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- In article <5146@airs.com> ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) writes:
- >peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
- >
- >[ who benefits because 386BSD is not under the GPL ]
- >
- >>The people who aren't hackers and want to walk down to the store and buy
- >>a shrinkwrapped copy of "386BSD-Lite" with a technical support number and
- >>a bunch of application programs in shrinkwrap on the shelf next to it.
- >
- >I know this issue gets chased around and around a lot, but, after all,
- >just because the Hurd is covered by the GPL does not mean it can not
- >be sold shrinkwrapped in a store. The GPL just means that the
- >distributor has to put a piece of paper in the shrinkwrap saying
- >``send $100 for complete source code'' as well as another saying ``you
- >may give this software to your friends.''
-
- I'm a bit confused by this statement -- $100 for GNU Hurd's source code,
- or $100 for ABXZ Computing's modified GNU source code? Does this require
- that ABXZ Computing run a GNU tape copying site for their users, or can they
- give GNU's address on the card? Do they *have* to have a card if the software
- is modified? Do they *have* allow access to their modifications source? Do
- they have to allow you to give away their software to their friends, or only
- the GNU stuff?
-
- It seems to me that the only potential market in any of this is in terms of
- "value added" -- both the support *and* the software variety. As Peter would
- call them, "mundanes" are where a company is going to make it's money; the
- free redistribution of copies of the disks seems to hurt this, and thus it
- must be possible to add code to the disks and thus restrict distribution as
- a result.
-
- The "mundanes" want something that will work off a disk; this is why they
- don't download/copy themselves. After going through a lot of work to make
- it "work off a disk", there is little of the original incentive for purchase
- if one mundane can still copy from another (witness the "popcorn product"
- nature of DOS).
-
- >Apple seems to do fairly well with a freely redistributable operating system.
-
- Apple is a horse of a different wheelbase. Apple gives away software to
- sell hardware. You can't use the software unless you buy the hardware.
- You'll note that the ROMs, that which makes a MAC a MAC, are definitely *not*
- freely copiable. This is analogous to giving away $1000 worth of options
- that only work with a particular companies $12,000 car that costs $6,000
- to manufacture (this is being lenient on Apples markup, give student prices
- are often 1/2 retail, and they must still be turning a profit or the FTC
- would be down their throats).
-
- Terry Lambert
- terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
- terry@icarus.weber.edu
-
- ---
- Disclaimer: Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of
- my present or previous employers.
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