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- From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
- Subject: Re: Do you want free objects from FSF?
- Message-ID: <1992Aug19.193629.17397@cco.caltech.edu>
- Date: 19 Aug 92 19:36:29 GMT
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- In article <Bt8A6G.JuI@world.std.com> gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
- writes:
- > Would you like to see free objects, libraries, palettes, toolkits,
- > etc., from the Free Software Foundation?
- Well, yes, but there are several parts to the problem:
-
- 1) The GNU ObjC runtime is being written by Cygnus. Maybe end of the year
- availability? This should be compatible with both NeXT and Stepstone. Nothing
- else will be very useful until this is done.
-
- 2) NeXT, Stepstone, and other interested parties (Borland?)need to DEFINE (in
- some politically correct Open Forum :-) the essential Foundation classes they
- will cooperate on. NeXT will modify it's shipping product to include them, and
- StepStone will build its ICPak 101 on top of them.
-
- 3) Someone needs to write/donate the appropriate Foundation classes (primarily
- Object, List, Storage, and Hash) to GNU for including with GCC (2.4?)
-
- Until this happens, there is no meaningful 'object market' in Objective-C.
- Once this foundation is in place, and available outside of the NeXT community.
- Things can really start taking off.
-
- Note that this really only means objects and libraries. Pallettes and Toolkits
- are entirely NeXT-specific entities, and (as proprieatry systems) outside of
- GNU's domain of interest [I suspect]. However, 'kernel' functionality is
- ultimately the most important aspect of a portable program. This is precisely
- why Bruce Webster wrote a marvelous letter urging NeXT to do the same thing I
- described above, except in a commercial rather than FSF form.
-
- I would dearly love to know what NeXT (et al) are thinking along these lines.
- I've been harping on this theme [perhaps we should forward to c.s.n.a] for over
- a year, and NeXTs direction is still somewhat vague. Hopefully they'll reach a
- decision on this soon.
-
- Objectively yours, ;-0
- -Ernie P.
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- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics
- Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
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