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- From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
- Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo
- Message-ID: <Bt1362.ID2@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- References: <dillon.0l89@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <1992Aug13.195438.26752@cs.yale.edu> <dillon.0lj8@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>
- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:05:47 GMT
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- dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Aug13.195438.26752@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
- >>NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo
- >>(68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo
- >>(68040-33MHz), newer NeXTstations (68040-25MHz), and
- >>newer NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
- >>
- >>These systems have only 4 SIMM slots, but they can take
- >>double-sided SIMMs. SIMMs must be installed in groups of
- >>two in these machines.
- >>
- >>Use 72-pin 4, 8, 16, or 32 MB SIMMs with 100 ns minimum
- >>access time. For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs.
-
- > Yes, that's what I read.... but it is extremely obscure. It doesn't
- > say WHY using faster SIMMs results in faster performance, it doesn't
- > say where the break point is... you can't even GET 100ns SIMMs
- > anymore!! They START at 80ns (100ns cost the same or more then 80ns).
- > The NeXT is the only machine I've ever heard of that has a programmable
- > waitstate for it's dynamic ram access. It really makes no sense to
- > take an already slow machine and slow it down further...
-
- Nathan didn't include a line right above that information in the FAQ
- that tells you to look in NeXTAnswers hardware.620, which is a good
- source for this information. You should look there to see a
- definitive answer.
- Well you can get 100ns SIMMs if you're buying them from someone
- used. The information is still important.
- I have used many PCs that have a switch on the back that allows you
- to go from one wait state to zero depending on the speed of the RAM
- you install. I think I have seen PC's that do this automatically,
- as well. Why isn't it smart? The machine is just trying to be
- flexible. You would rather that it just booted up and said "Buy
- faster memory" and just sat there? (ie wouldn't let you boot up)?
- Or worse - it went ahead and used the slower memory in it without
- inserting a wait state... bits dropping into oblivion...
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