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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:49:03 GMT
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- In <ajross.714324371@husc10> ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross) writes:
-
- >Um... Taligent is a JOINT venture. Apple is, and will be, making
- >precicely the same mistakes as IBM.
-
- Taligent is a joint venture to *develop* a new operating system.
- It has little or nothing to do with marketing decisions (such as
- whether to release the OS with or without a compatiblity layer),
- whcih will be made by the two respective companies.
-
-
- >You're reading too far into this. Guarino's statement was that Taligent
- >is/will be marketed to the University sector where BSD Unix currently
- >dominates. You seem to take this as a statement that Taligent is looking
- >ONLY at the university sector.
-
- The context of Guarino's statement concerned encouraging software
- developers to write for code for Taligent (thus obviating the need
- for an initial compatibility layer). Guarino does not seem to realize
- that while little UNIX toys like emacs may come from universities,
- real software is developed by profitmaking companies in the private sector.
-
-
- >Oh please. Does System 7 have Built in TCP/IP?
-
- Oh, no! System 7 can't possibly be as good as Windows NT. Why,
- it's builtin networking doesn't have snazzy initials!
-
- >Pre-Emptive Multitasking?
-
- No, thank God! I don't want an OS that can come along and hit
- an application over the head while it's doing something critical
- like updating the screen or interacting with the user. Preemptive
- multitasking only works well for noninteractie, batch-oriented
- systems or interactive systems with multiple processors.
-
- >Memory Protection?
-
- Apparently, yes. This is discussed in Inside Mac Vol VI, although
- few details are given. Not that I care very much. Memory protection
- is a poor substitute for programs that work properly and don't crash,
- and there aren't many Windows programs that I can say that about.
-
- >Threads?
-
- No? I guess the threads package on my Developer's CD is a figment
- of my imagination, then, huh?
-
- >Process Ownership?
-
- Again, see Inside Mac VI. You'll find an entire chapter on process
- management.
-
- >Symmetric Multi-Processing?
-
- I'm not even sure what this is. If it's anything more than
- marketing speak, I'd like to hear more.
-
- >The list goes on.
-
- Yes, you forget aliasing, publish-and-subscribe, AppleEvents,
- Quicktime... all of Windows NT no doubt implements, right? ;-)
-
- >There is a Pre-Beta release already available (for $69) that
- >has all of these features ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.
-
- There's a big difference between implemented and working.
- The final release of Windows 3.1 also has a lot of nifty
- features in it which, alas, never work. For example, ALT-SHIFT-DEL
- to kill a hung process. But after trying that after, oh, 50 or 60
- program crashes, I've come to the conclusion that, like Bullwinkle's
- hat trick, it never works.
-
- >Please do some fact checking the next time you want to claim that NT is
- >just a bad System 7 clone.
-
- Okay, I checked. It still is.
-