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- From: ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: Re: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
- Message-ID: <ajross.714324371@husc10>
- Date: 20 Aug 92 15:26:11 GMT
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- References: <1992Aug19.014443.1@vax1.umkc.edu> <ewright.714240935@convex.convex.com>
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- ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
-
- >In <1992Aug19.014443.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
-
- >>"Taligent won't be a robust platform on day one," said
- >>Guarino, in a session at Apple's first Enterprise Computing
- >>Conference held here last week. "A year [after the operating
- >>system is shipped], Taligent will provide interoperability
- >>with AIX, System 7 and OS/2 applications, and it may be a
- >>converged operating environment by the late '90s."
-
- >As usual, IBM has it arse-backwards. The ability to run
- >System 7 and OS/2 applications is important for users who
- >are just migrating to the new operating system, especially
- >during the first year or so, when there will be little native
- >software available. It will become less important as time
- >goes on.
-
- >>"Delaying compatibility may be a big mistake, analysts said.
-
- >For once, the analysts are right. It sounds like IBM is
- >in a hurry to release the new OS as soon as possible and
- >is willing to sacrifice compatability to do it. I hope
- >Apple doesn't make the same mistake. Better to get it
- >right the first time around than try to fix it later.
- >(Hasn't IBM learned anything from OS/2?)
-
- Um... Taligent is a JOINT venture. Apple is, and will be, making
- precicely the same mistakes as IBM. You seem to think that the two
- companies are doing independent development of the operating system. It
- is my understanding that Taligent is the ONLY company doing any OS
- development for the PowerPC project.
-
- >>"It's our belief that the brain trusts in our universities
- >>are looking for something beyond Unix," Guarino said.
-
- >This seems to be part of the problem right there. He
- >confuses universities with developers. This guy seems
- >to think that computers are still primarily for university
- >"brain trusts" who have nothing better to do with their time
- >than write all their own software from scratch. If Taligent
- >follows that strategy, it will be about as successful as NeXT.
-
- You're reading too far into this. Guarino's statement was that Taligent
- is/will be marketed to the University sector where BSD Unix currently
- dominates. You seem to take this as a statement that Taligent is looking
- ONLY at the university sector.
-
- >>So what's this say for the future or Taligent?? Will they be
- >>doomed if they don't ship Mac-AIX-OS/2 modules before 1996??
- >>Thats four years from now...roughly three after NT ships...
-
- >Assuming Windows NT ships on schedule, which is doubtful.
- >Even so, NT will only bring Windows up to the level of a
- >bad System 7 clone. Since a Taligent application on a PowerPC
- >may run ten times faster than a Windows NT app running on
- >Intel hardware, there's not really much comparison.
-
- Oh please. Does System 7 have Built in TCP/IP? Pre-Emptive Multitasking?
- Memory Protection? Threads? Process Ownership? Symmetric
- Multi-Processing? The list goes on. There is a Pre-Beta release already
- available (for $69) that has all of these features ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.
- While that does not necessarily indicate that NT will ship by the end of
- the year, It is obviously going to be here soon. I kind of doubt we'll
- see a ten-fold increase in performance over current Intel boxes, but even
- so, NT has already been demo'd (in the same pre-Beta) running on an R4000
- 64 bit processor. As an INTERFACE, the finder will beat the program
- manager any day; but as an OPERATING SYSTEM, System 7 doesn't hold a
- candle to what NT will be (or what OS/2 is, for that matter.)
-
- Please do some fact checking the next time you want to claim that NT is
- just a bad System 7 clone.
-
- Andy Ross
- ajross@husc.harvard.edu
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