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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 18 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 198

Today's Topics:

      [*] Prince of Persia Editor 1.0
      [*] Tangram 3.08C - Shareware version
      3d morph movie
      7.1 Problems
      About T2 Effects
      Alias for Word 5.0 in System 6
      Best software/hardware for rapid display of picts with music (Q)
      Broken modem help needed
      Bus Error and Error Type 25
      COBOL
      DeltaGraph Pro "Save" bug is NOT
      dl Converter
      Ethernet
      Ethernet Problems
      FKEYS again: How to install (Q)
      FrameMaker (C)
      generation systems monitors
      Hard disk crashes and SUM II (2 msgs)
      Hidden folders with System 7
      How many Andy Welch's?
      How to change the default menu font (Q)
      IBM->Mac
      IIg and Dos Word
      IIsi purchase?
      IIsi Sound Problem
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #197
      I successfully un-munged Jon Pugh's morph movie!
      looking for a config
      Mac CPU vs. IBM CPU: a report
      Mac Plus and System 7
      Mail List Software (Q)
      Math Chips for PB140 ???
      McCAD for Mac and PADS for PC?
      Now Utilities 4.0: scam or suave marketing?
      PostScript on non-PS Printers (Q)
      Printing postscript files on a VAX......
      Random Beeps
      RE- Backdrop for System
      Scheduling packages
      Shareware/Freeware Master List?
      Strange QM Message
      Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database
      Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database ?? (A)
      Telephone number for Security Concepts?  (Q)
      Tetris Clones
      That extra partition (was when is an xHD not an xHD)
      Translators for IIe to Mac
      VMS Mail (Summary)
      VMS Mail on Macs
      Word Indexing (Solution)
      XferIt author.

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:52 PDT
From: Don Nakanishi/Gann Matsuda <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Prince of Persia Editor 1.0

This is the Prince of Persia Editor, version 1.0. This utility will allow you
to cheat in Prince of Persia.  It will create saved games at any level,
increase your time and your health.  Shareware.  After binhex, use Stuffit
Lite 3.0.x, Stuffit Deluxe 3.0 or Stuffit Expander 1.0.1 to decompress.

Gann Matsuda

[Archived as /info-mac/game/prince-of-persia-editor-10.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:35 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Tangram 3.08C - Shareware version

     Here is shareware color version 'Tangram' at last! Older demo version
     programs should be replaced with this version. If you are a registered
     user, contact the author for registration code.
     Tangram is an ancient Oriental toy which has 7 pieces, 5 triangles in
     different size, 1 square and 1 diamond. The objective of this game is to
     form a given shape using all 7 pieces.
     Thousands of shapes can be made by moving simple shaped pieces around.
     This puzzle game is specially great for children to practice matching
     skill. You may think this is only children's game, but you will find it
     challenging once you try it.
     Registered version has lots of features including editor, help and
     hundreds of puzzles. You may copy the unregistered version freely without
     any modification, but all rights are reserved by the author.
     Tangram was tested on SE, SE/30, IIsi, IIci under system 6.07 and 7.0
     with 32-bit mode on and off. If you have trouble to run it, please try to
     turn off as many INITs and cdevs as possible.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/tangram-308c.hqx; 159K]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92  18:08 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: 3d morph movie

There still seems to be a problem with this file, at least if my experience
is anything to go by.  Firstly it decompressed to an incredibly large file
(1.8 Mb, 10 times the original size!) considering that it's a short movie with
a small screen window; it also decompressed unusually quickly.  Then Simple
Player just would not play it because "there is no movie in the data fork".
However it WILL run as a Startup Movie, ie QuickTime knows how to handle it.
What's going on?  Any other bug reports?

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:06:57 MET DST
From: [e-mail] (Klaus Koehler)
Subject: 7.1 Problems

Hello,

is there already a System 7.1 related list out there? Its probably not
suitable for this list to discuss 7.1 beta probs.

But - has anyone successfully installed Suitcase under 7.1?

/KK

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:43:14 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: About T2 Effects

According to the things I have seen and read, the nuclear bomb effects were
done mostly with minatures.  The crew reported that they severely disturbed
themselves with the images they created.  That's a testament to great work.

I believe that most of the storyboarding these days is done on Macs.
Apparently Hypercard often plays an important role since it is easy to
sketch out a linear storyline with it.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:54:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Richard Charles Graves)
Subject: Alias for Word 5.0 in System 6

For many applications, you will find that a System 7 alias also works in
System 7.  This is because Sys 7 sets the file type of an alias to adrp
and the Creator attribute to that of the aliased application (presumably
this simplifies the desktop database). The System 6 Finder, seeing a
Creator of MSWD, will try to open the file in Word. Word won't know what
to do with an alias, so just opens an Untitled document.
Of course this trick works only with applications. And only with some
applications. Many apps, including I think Nisus and PrintShop, will make
an effort to interpret files they really have no business interpreting,
and crash. Try at own risk.
--
| rich graves, stanfd res affairs mac tech, and occasional senior, poli sci |
| [e-mail]     88C Escondido Village     [phone] |

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 07:01:15 PDT
From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
Subject: Best software/hardware for rapid display of picts with music (Q)

I am beginning a project which will involve illustrating a song.  The
ultimate product will play a digitized recording of the sound (mono, not
particularly hifi: it's a historic recording), displaying illustrations
in PICT files, mostly 8-bit grayscale and color, but with a few 32-bit
color files.  These must be displayed in sequence, very rapidly, some
will appear on the screen for just a little over than a second, in order
to keep pace with the lyrics.  The hardware will be an FX with a graphics
accelerator card, though I might be able to use a Quadra.  What software/
hardware can help me reach this goal?  Or should I resign myself to the
lower resolution of VHS videotape?  I would particularly appreciate
advice from people experienced in self-running presentations involving
multimedia.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:25:36 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Broken modem help needed

I have a 2400 bps data modem with sendfax, obviously
produced by Zoom, but without their label on it, which
suddenly stopped working properly.

Symptoms: Any AT commands issued are obviously
recognized by the modem, since it displays the "OK"
or the register value, or anything I expect it should.

However, when I issued a dial command yesterday night
using normal (touch-tone) dialling, the telephone
company's systems do not recognize the tones any
longer. I thought, there might be broken something
in their equipment and switched to rotary dialling.
This gave me at least a connection to the other
computer, and I heard all these inhuman tones when
the modems try to negotiate their speeds. Then, many
pages of real garbage signs appeared on the screen
which can NOT be originationg from the other end.
(The "other end" was a packet switched network).

I opened the modem case to see if anything looks
odd, but I did not see any burned parts or anything
which did not look as it should. All chips were sitting
firmly in place (tried to press them down with my
finger), but nothing helped.

Yes, I know, a 2400 bps modem with sendfax is not
"state-of-the-art", but better than nothing, and even
if it was cheap when I bought it, I don't like throwing
things away. (As I do with my Mac Plus...)

Please email any suggestions.

Christian Buser    [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:59:07 EDT
From: "Charles A. Patrick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bus Error and Error Type 25

I am sorely in need of information and assistance. Of recent I have seen a
marked increase in the incidence of two types of events:

I try and open an application and the system crashes with a *bus error*. I am
able to to restart by clicking on the restart button.
What is a bus error, in general and in this context?
What is it a symptom of?

I try to open an application, it opens and then it shuts down and I get a
message something like
*unknown application has unexpectedly quit, error type 25*
The System Errors DA tells me:
25    dsMemFullErr - out of memory!

In addition to these now fairly frequently occurring events, I seem to be
experiencing more than my fair share of freeze-ups.

I am running System 7.0.1, tuned by 1.1.1, and a bucketful of extensions and
cp's and the like.
My start up disk is a La Cie 80MB pocket drive, which I run on an 8MB SE/30
at work, and a 5MB SE/30 at home.

So far I have resisted restarting from a reformatting of the Hard Drive, but
every day is bringing me closer to the seemingly inevitable. Thus, even though
I might take the Final step, I would appreciate any insights.

I have a legitimate copy of CE's TAA, I have recently down loaded INIT
Treacker
 but can make neither head nor tail of it. In short I do have some resources
 to
generate catalogues and histories associated with the System.

Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:52:40 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: COBOL

>Hello!
>
>I am about to take a COBOL class (Got to, it's the law...) and I was
wondering
>if anyone knew of a COBOL compiler for the Macintosh?
>
Doesn't this violate the constitutional prohibition of cruel and unusual
punishments?

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:21:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bob Canfield)
Subject: DeltaGraph Pro "Save" bug is NOT

Scott Maxwell asked:

> Am I crazy or is this actually a bug with DeltaGraph Pro?  When
> I try to save document, cannot use the shift key to generate
> a capital letter.

Maybe you're crazy, Scott!   ;)

I have no trouble saving files with capital letters when using
DeltaGraph Pro version 2.0. Have you turned off all system
extensions and tried it?

Bob Canfield, Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 18 Aug 92 16:40:57 U
From: "Capp Luckett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: dl Converter

   Inter-Department Memo
SUBJECT:   dl Converter                                   8/18/92      4:36 PM
Is there a .dl graphics file converter for the MAC.  Both for the "uu" and to
display or to convert to another format??

Thanks for the Info
Capp Luckett
email : [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:01:35 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet

OK, I can't resist anymore.  I have to Ethernet the Quadras together.
Actually
it's even worse than that.  I upgraded the NTX to a g, so we're going to
Ethernet both the Quadras to that.  However, the company store doesn't sell
the Apple Ethernet connectors, so I'm forced to shop around like regular
mortals.  ;)  I was wondering if someone could give me rundown of Ethernet
plug and play options.  I think I would prefer twisted pair, but am willing
to hear opinions about thick and thin cabling.

Feel free to mail me and I can summarize.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ethernet Problems

Hello  netfolk,

I am having a major problem with an Asante MacCon+SE ethernet board,  and a
Macintosh SE  running System 7.0.

The main problem is the set-up.  I'm confident that the tn3270 software is
configured correctly; I'm using it right now to type to you all.  The problem
is, when I Shut Down and power off the SE, it won't  work the next time that I
turn it on.

Some particulars:

-The current setting in the Network control panel is for "LocalTalk
built-In".
This is the setting that works when it works.

-The current connection option in the MacTCP control panel is "Ethernet
Built-In". Selecting "LocalTalk" doesn't work, even when the Network setting
is set as above.

-IP addresses, gateways, etc. are properly configured (again, I'm typing to
you right now).

-I ran NetWare Diagnostics on the board and it tested OK.  Should I trust
this?

-The SE is connected directly to the campus backbone network.  In case I
didn't state that quite correctly, there is no Novell, Banyan, or other LAN in
between things.

-SE, 2.5Mb RAM (will be increased to 4 very soon, but this is enough to run
tn3270 with quite a bit of room to spare), System 7.0 tuned.

-As stated earlier, the above setup works after some nudging.  It will also
work after a Restart.  it will not, however, work if I Shut Down and then
power off the computer unless I reset the Network and MacTCP control panels to
something else, shut down/restart again, reset the control panels to where
they were, restart AGAIN, and then launch tn3270.

I'm at a loss.  This is my boss' computer and I'm in charge of getting this to
work.  Any answers may be in Semi-TechTalk, as I'm not a novice to any aspect
of this except for the network stuff: there I'm weak.

Since I have your attention, I have another problem that may or may not be
related:

What is an error -4101?  I recieved it while trying to print to a LaserWriter
II NT from this same Mac SE from BBEdit 2.1.2 and had to do a force quit to
get back in action.  I have not yet reloaded another copy of BBEdit and plan
to do so, but I don't get this error all of the time.  I originally thought it
had to do with memory, but upping the allocation to BBEdit didn't help (nor
did running it by itself).  I have not exhausted all possibilities here yet,
but the meaning of this error may point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can be of assistance.  I can't guarantee a
summary to the net, but I can guarantee that I'll try to help anyone that I
can when that time comes.

Byron Mayes
University of Delaware
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:03 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: FKEYS again: How to install (Q)

Thanks to all those friendly people who did reply to my question !
I did receive a couple of messages pointing me to the fkey-manager-30.hqx
which is available at sumex-aim.
Now after downloading this file I realised that I cannot read the "FKey Mgr
Manual" since I havn't got the word-processor which was used to write it.
Can someone out there tell me which word processor was used, or even better
send me an ASCII file of the text.....I know it is a 100+ K file, but I
don't know any other way to resolve my problem...... ?
Thak you !

Hans Kroeger

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:39:14 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: FrameMaker (C)

In infomac v10 #195 you write:

> It has a drawing tool which is about as good as MacDraw II - but not as
> good an interface as the Claris product (although it CAN do arrows on
> curves, which MD II cannot do); it has an equation writer which displays as
> good as MathType - again the interface to this is not quite as easy as MT,
> however, FrameMaker can SOLVE the equations as well!!

and then

> On the other hand, it costs: $A1350 RRP $A350 student price, compared to
> $A500 and $A130 respectively for Word 5 and $A450 and $A280 respectively
> for Nisus 3 (although the price is cheaper than buying Word +
> MacDraw + Theorist (for solving equations) + PageMaker...)


Er, we have the Sun version of FrameMaker here, and at least on OUR
implementation, it does only numeric calculation of equations.  Theorist
(and Maple, Mathematica and MACSYMA) does SYMBOLIC solving.  There is a big
difference.  Did the version you saw do real symbolic solving?  I.E., could
it be given an equation of form a=func1(x,y) and solve for y=func2(x,a)?

If you just mean that it numerically evaluates equations, then even Nisus
can already do that.

That said, FrameMaker is most impressive.  If I had not spent my meager
student pittance on Nisus already, then I think I probably would consider
FrameMaker at the student rate (last I heard was $190 US) but even then, it
would be hard, to convince myself that it offers TWICE the functionality of
Nisus (student rate of $99).

In my case, I am very much quite happy with the combo of Nisus +
Expressionist.  Nisus is fast & responsive enough to do all the little jobs
that I wouldn't want a huge monster like FrameMaker for, yet still very
powerful.

One thing about Nisus that probably should be said, though, is that Nisus
provides power according to your machine.  That is not to say that it
cannot do the same complex macros and other operations on a low-end mac.
It is just that there is always going to be a threshold on a given mac as
to just how far you are going to push it before it is simply not fast
enough for you.  Since Nisus IS nearly open-ended in the shear types of
tasks it potentially can undertake, as you move to faster and faster
machines, you are less & less limited by your patience threshold.  AT a
given level, though, you can always count on it to be the fastest at some
basic tasks like scrolling & search/replace.

I have been fairly impressed with the Sun version of FrameMaker.  It does
pretty much everything you might need in writing a thesis.  It (or at least
OUR implementation) is not the most stable though.  It tends to abort
rather suddenly every now & then and once it hung the workstation
completely.  A newer version might not have these problems and certainly
this should be no reflection on any Mac or Windows versions.  This lack of
stability here, though, is just enough to keep me from working too much
with it.  Otherwise, I would even more inclined to buy the Mac version.

Jes' my humble lil' opinions...

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[e-mail]

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Date: 18 AUG 92 14:09:07.19-GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: generation systems monitors

dear list members
any experience with generation systems monitors????  ONe of the mailorder
houses is offeri a 14inch model for about 400 dollars to go with an
xceed card for a SE30.  any comments very welcome... mayb e off line to me
and I'll summarize.

james  (in paris france)

[e-mail]


all the best

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92  12:34 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hard disk crashes and SUM II

I've never used SUM, so this comment is somewhat tangential to the subject.
I just wanted to say that in regard to the general problem of hard disk
crashes, I'm a firm believer in starting the diagnostic process off not with
Norton or SUM or other commercial packages, but with that humblest of
utilities, Disk First Aid.  In my experience, DFA is unrivalled at coping
with what I'd call "medium-scale" bugs, ie those which aren't so minor as to
be "cosmetic" (DFA probably won't even spot them), or so major as to require
reinstalling the whole System.  In the light of the unfortunate experiences
someone has had with SUM, I should add that another thing DFA has going for
it is that in my experience at least, I've never known DFA to make things
worse - it unobtrusively does what it can, and exits quietly.  I've even had
a situation arise in which DFA and Norton were clashing over how much free
space there should be on my disk.  Every time I ran DFA, it said there was
a problem and fixed the disk so that I got an extra megabyte of free space.
If I then ran Norton, it swiped most of the space back!  In the end I
trusted DFA and got my extra megabyte but lost no files.  To me that said a
lot about DFA's reliability.
So next time you do have a serious crash, remember your Disk Tools disk.
You can even check what Disk First Aid has done or reported against another
utility like Norton: in Disk First Aid, before you click on "Start", type
command-S (trust Apple to violate their own Human Interface Guidelines!!!).
A little progress window will appear as if by magic, and DFA will then tell
you about what it's tested/fixed (B-Tree etc etc).  (This and other amazing
tricks are listed in a document in the /report directory here on Sumex)

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:15:38 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hard Disk Crashes and SUM II

On Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:41:16 EDT you said:
>So I have got back to thing I most wanted to avoid --  rebuilding the
>hard disk from back-ups of files located on miscellaneous floppies
>located "all over God's kingdom".  If I crash a specific valuable file,
>I can usually quickly locate the floppy where a recent copy is stored;
>but to do so on the scale required to re-build an 80-meg hard disk is
>quite an experience! Some 24 hours later, I had replaced about 40% (the
>amount I needed to get back to my work) of the "glitched" files.

I had to do something like that ONCE :-(  A day or two later I called
APS and ordered an 88 MByte SyQuest (any other large capacity removable
media drive would have done as well).  If you depend on what's on the
hard drive for getting your work done, then an 'all in one place' backup
is clearly worth it.  The next best thing is a backup program that keeps
a complete copy of your drive on a box of sequential floppys.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:53:13 +0100
From: L C Willoughby <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hidden folders with System 7

I've just upgraded lab SE & SE/30 to System 7. Under System 6 I use to hide
the
application folders using ResEdit's Get Info section to prevent users messing
around with the files, they could either double click one of their documents
or
use a launching menu (Apollo) to launch an application. However under System 7
if the application is in a hidden folder and one double clicks on a document
you get a message that the application can't be found! Launching from Apollo
works OK but aliases don't work either if the application is hidden.
Is this a feature of System 7 or a bug?

Charles Willoughby
Chemistry Department
University College London
UK

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:46:07 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: How many Andy Welch's?

On Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:14:50 CDT you said:
>Andrew Welch's Eclipse will work. Andrew Welch, Ambrosia, POB 23140,
>Rochester, NY 14692.

Are there TWO Andy Welch's writing shareware (one in Wilton, CT and
another in Rochester, NY) or ONE Andy who's moved (and if only one,
which address is the most recent)?

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:39:32 MET DST
From: [e-mail] (Georg Koch )
Subject: How to change the default menu font (Q)

Is it possible to change the default menu font to, say, Geneva 9pt ?  I want
to change the menu bar font as well. How can I do it ?

    Georg

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:44:49 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: IBM->Mac

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:58:25 -0800 you said:
>Murph Sewall <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>That he has had problems converting WP 5.1 to Mac using MacLink Plus.

Actually, my complaint is with going Mac TO WP 5.1.  Although the
MacLink Plus translators have weaknesses, they tend to read in most WP
5.1 files without many problems.

>This is totally unnecessary with Word 5.0.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that Word 5.0 has a better WP 5.x
translator.  Have you tried SAVING a Word 5.0 document with a graphic as
WP 5.1, copying to a MeSsy DOS disk and loading it on a PeeCee?  Is the
graphic still there?

Maybe I'll send you a file produced by our word processing center which
loves every obscure WP 5.1 feature and see if Word 5 can swallow it
without choking :)  I understand even WP for the Mac doesn't translate
EVERYTHING correctly BOTH ways (I haven't tried it, however).

Whether you use Word's translators or XTND technology, you'll find life
a lot easier with AccessPC, PC Exchange, or DOS Mount.  Of course if you
rarely need to read or write a MeSsy DOS disk, then AFE will get it
done.

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:25:33 PDT
From: Tim Rushing <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIg and Dos Word

I recently encountered a problem printing with a LaserWriter IIg
>From DOS Word 5.0.  I am told (though certainly *NOT* by Microsoft)
that this is because Word's PostScript driver is buggy and will
not work with Level 2 PostScript.  After many hours of wasted time,
Microsoft finally sent me a driver called PSNET which worked.  PSNET
is the driver that is designed to work with a networked PostScript
printer.  The IIg is not networked at the moment, but this driver
solved the problem.  I don't know if that's because the original
driver is not PostScript level 2 clean or something else.  I would
be interested from hearing from someone who knows.

I hope this saves someone the time and headache I went through.

Tim Rushing([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:39:01 -0400
From: "Tad Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIsi purchase?

After much soul-searching and scrounging for cash, I'm on the verge of
getting a IIsi. Then someone pointed out that Apple is redefining its
product line and price drops may be in the offing.

Should I go ahead with my plans, or should I wait? Is it CERTAIN that
prices will drop, or only POSSIBLE? Or is it possible, as someone else
pointed out, that prices are going back UP in October and now is the time
to do it? Is it appropriate to ask the list for advice on this question?

Tad Davis
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 7:05:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Dave Martin, Geochemical Research, Texas A&M)
Subject: IIsi Sound Problem

I've had my IIsi for about a year and a half now, and I can assure you that
keeping the volume at 6 or 7 makes no difference to the loss of sound, nor
does the FKEY Reset Sound fix the problem all the time (nor the manual method
of setting the volume to 7 in the Sound control panel).
Also, the power light on mine keeps flickering between states of on and off
(the green LED indicator on the left front of the IIsi's case is the power
indicator, not the drive light). Tapping lightly (you don't have to bang on
it) usually jolts the light back on for a little while.
I'd say that it is a hardware-based problem, not software-based. The way the
leads for both the power light and the speaker are connected certainly doesn't
seem very proper (looks like finger contacts that could cause shorts if the
contacts are broken by any distance).
Don't expect a fix from Apple unless it's in the form of a free repair program
to replace the connection with a more reliable one (and I wouldn't trust any
software-based solution to fix the problem).

Dave

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:06:28 EST
From: David Duarte <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #197

Fkeys can be installed in a few different ways.  You can use ResEdit to open
up the fkey suitcase or file, and open your system file as well.  I believe
that the resource is named fkey (in your system file).  All you have to do
is select the resource from the fkey file and copy it to the system resource.
It should have a number, which tells you which number key you hit for it to
work (there should also be others in there, such as 3 for a screen save or 4
for a print screen).  Don't think that you need "Fkeys" on your keyboard, as
I initially did, the way they are actuated is by hitting Command+Shift+ "x",
with "x" being the number of the fkey.  You can also install fkeys using a
utility called "FKey Lackey", or with the Suitcase utility.

Dave Duarte

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 02:28:55 CDT
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: I successfully un-munged Jon Pugh's morph movie!

    I deduce George Tempel hadn't gotten it "after" correction by Jon Pugh
because it was only apparently after in the post due to time zone shift.
I found it to be in macbinary. It added zest to begin my day of excruciating
lessons in TeX for across platforms documentation.
    I now belong to a Gravity Research Network and must know how to post and
receive generic documentation that may come from macs, unix, or ibm.
    See if any of you can unmunge this :
    $$^left({^forall n}^right)^left({^sum ^limits_{ j
    =1}~{ n}{ j}~{3}
    ={^left({^sum ^limits_{ j
    =1}~{ n} j}^right)}~{2}}^right)$$
This was a tautology I found with Theorist reading The Mind of God (p.146).
I claim to no psychic abilities myself, you see.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:24:01 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: looking for a config

I'm looking for an entirely new configuration. This is what I had in mind:

screen: at least A4, at leat greyscale, preferably color
processor: at least 68030; probably LC or cx; maybe PB140 or PB170
coprocessor
disk: prefarably 120MB (Storage Dimensions?)
printer: HP Deskwriter C
modem: preferably internal

software: besides usual stuff, I'd like a Unix (A/UX or MachTech) to
play with, but I suppose that this is not realistic with an LC or cx

languages: Smalltalk80, C++, lisp, prolog, pascal


I'd like comments and proposals on hard- and software options (which
make of screen, which C++, ...)

Much obliged,
Jan Dockx       [e-mail]
Leuven
Belgium

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:31:17 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac CPU vs. IBM CPU: a report

On Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:36 EST you said:
>A few days ago I received this message from a PC user(who is considering
>buying a Mac).  It compares the all the Motorola CPU's to the Intel CPU's.
>
>[Warning: this topic could easily spawn an endless flame war if
uncontrolled.
> Therefore, only informative, non-emotional posts will be accepted
> in response to this article. Others will be silently deleted. -Bill]

Gee, I hope we don't get all sorts of boring analyses of chip
architecture.  Most of the comparisons are irrelevant to most users.  It
takes more than a CPU to make a difference, and as those who've
disparaged the Classic II in comparison to the SE/30 clearly recognize,
those "other" features can make an enormous difference.  I recently
spoke to a PC clone buyer who indicated that the "high cost" of the Mac
dissuaded him, but also bemoaned the fact that the EISA (one of the
32-bit architectures for Intel PCs) bus machines cost so much (he really
should compare his 386 ISA clone to the LC, but it might make him feel
bad :)

The REAL issue, is what system gets the job done for how big a budget?
I prefer the kind of tests where someone takes whole systems, loads up
PageMaker, Word, Excel, and whatever else will run on all of them, and
compares head to head (the basis of Motorolas "what do you get when you
buy a 50 MHz i486" ads).

If one simply wants to word process, and send/receive email; it's hard
to argue that one needs more than an LC II or an inexpensive PeeCee
clone (prices for 25 MHz 386DX (to say nothing of SX) systems are
"amazing" compared to just a a few months ago).  If the economy doesn't
pick up steam soon, it'll be interesting to see who is still in business
a year from now (perhaps a good argument for studying the balance sheet
of your CPU vendor as well as the chip architecture--what good is the
warranty if the manufacturer ceases to exist?).  If only the CPU is
important, then the clear winner is... the Amiga (on MIPS for the buck,
surely ;-)

I see where IBM plans to ship OS/2 on ALL PS/2's and "high end" PS/1's by
the end of the year.  I expect that either OS/2's popularity will
increase markedly, or IBM will be boo'd out the PeeCee business almost
entirely (odds anyone :)

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:01:54 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Plus and System 7

Dear Collective Mac Net Mind,

I have been attempting for the past 5 months to use System 7.0 (tuned)
on Mac Pluses, but I can not seem to keep my users happy.  These users
spend 90% of their time editing and printing worksheets with Excel 3.0.
They are hooked up in a very simple daisy chained localtalk network
with 4 Mac Pluses and one laserWriter IINT.  One of the Mac Pluses is
acting as a file server for the other 3 using System 7.0 file sharing.
One of the mac pluses (the most trouble free one) is running System 6
.  The other two mac pluses each running System 7.0 (tuned) lose track
of the LaserWriter on this very simple network.  The uses have to
continually tell the PrintMonitor to "Try Again" in order to print jobs
>From Excel.  Is my only recourse to downgrade to System 6?  Any suggest-
ions would be most appreciated.

Reply to bebrf14@nervm, Clinton Collins

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:23:42 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mail List Software (Q)

Folks, I hope y'all can help with a problem posed by Goodwife Bloom. She
wants basically a mailing list data base for her regional art association
that can be sorted alpha to print a directory and by ZIP Code to print
laser mailing labels, plus have a couple data fields to indicate whether
someone entered and/or was accepted in one of their shows.

Showing my age, I recalled that Apple's Mail List Manager and 3 EZ Pieces
(also known as AppleWorks) did such things, and I figured Jim Leitch's
Address Book or MS Works would do admirably. Wrong. Address Book does not
do ZIP Code sorting -- a major consideration for bulk mailing. Works does
not have a "print mailing labels" option. How rude!

I don't do data processing on small computers, so I haven't followed the
reviews in the trade press. And of course there is nothing in the few
months of complete journals that I keep before cutting up into "keep"
and "trash" articles.

Can any of y'all point me to a product that'll meet Leslye's needs? This
is a domestic tranquility issue, a right that Leslye assures me is
guaranteed under the US Constitution.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 04:44:40 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Math Chips for PB140 ???

The major drawback to my PB140 is the lack of a math coprocessor. Does
anyone know of the actual, impending, or hypothesized availability of such
an add-on. Conversely, does any know or believe that such is definitively
impossible? Should I begin selling relatives into slavery in order to buy
a PB170? Is there any news on lower prices for the 170 or for any of the
new models including a math chip?

Thanks for your help,
\/Joshua Lieberman, Earth Sci., Hebrew University <[e-mail]>/\

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:03 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: McCAD for Mac and PADS for PC?

Hello everybody!

I am want to buy McCAD package that do schematic capture and digital
simulation.
But my boss want me to prove him that it can generate net list which can be
readable by PADS-PCB for IBM-PC. Do anybody have any experience with McCAD and
did something like i need? If so i would appreciate if you mail me how it can
be done (or just if it can be done).
Thanks in advance,
Mike.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:19 EST
From: ROBERT_BROCKMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Now Utilities 4.0: scam or suave marketing?

By now most of you have probably received your upgrade notice from Now
Utilities for Now 4.0.

The upgrade is... interesting. Several components have been combined, and
others have been dropped. For example, Now Menus and Multimaster have been
combined and heavily integrated with SuperBoomerang. AlarmsClock has been
dropped from the Utilities package, and added to the Up-To-Date utility set.
DeskPicture and ScreenLocker have been dropped and will be added to yet
another
collection of utilities.

On the plus side, 4.0 will only work with System 7, so the utilities offer
more
features, are smaller, faster, and use about half as much RAM as 3.0.x ones.

On the negative side (and what this is all about) is that I use AlarmsClock.
If
I upgrade to 4.0, I won't be able to use it anymore unless I order the
Up-To-Date 2.0 package. I spoke with Now and they said that the 4.0 package is
engineered NOT to work with 3.0.x components.

Am I being unreasonable, or does this sound like a bad policy? I've been a
loyal NOW fan since 1.0, and paid the $30 upgrade fee to 2.0 (worth every
penny) and then, less than a year later, to 3.0 (also worth every penny). Now,
about a year later, to go to 4.0 for another $30, plus whatever they are going
to charge for Up-To-Date and the yet-unnamed third utility package makes me
question if I want to move to 4.0. I don't mind paying $30 for 4.0, I DON'T
like that they apparently purposely made it so that I can't use previous
products I've purchased from them.

Anyone else have any comments on this?


Robert Brockman * [e-mail]  or  [e-mail] *

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:36:33 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PostScript on non-PS Printers (Q)

I've just recently acquired an HP DeskWriter C. (I'd have loved to get a
PostScript laser printer, but the bank balance said forget it.) Anyway, I
want to be able to print PostScript docs on this thing (even in black and
white).

I know about Freedom of Press which will let you do this, but I've heard
some negative comments about it. Do any of you out there know of any other
packages which will print PostScript on non-PostScript printers? My
configuration is Mac Plus (:-0), 4MB+80MB, System 7.0 tuned, ATM, HP
DeskWriter C with latest drivers connected via serial port (although I
could connect via AppleTalk if necessary).

If I get enough responses I'll summarize.
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:19:10 PDT
From: "Peter Van Avermaet, DS-E @BRO, 856-7959  18-Aug-1992 1415"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Printing postscript files on a VAX......

[Re: item in Info-Mac Digest 10-193 dd 12 Aug 1992]

I assume that this VAX is running VMS (now OpenVMS).
I also assume that your PostScript printer is controlled by the CPS software.

In that case, it is simply a matter of:
PRINT /PARAMETER=DATA_TYPE=POSTSCRIPT file.name /QUEUE=queuename

However, 2 things can go wrong:

1. PostScript files produced on a Macintosh are ofen very wide (long
record-length). Depending on the path used to transfer those files to the VAX
computer, long records may have been mutilated.

2. Your PostScript file may use fonts that do not exist on your printer. If
the
file is not too wide, you can edit your PostScript file and replace, for
example
"Palatino" with "Times".

Regards,
Peter Van Avermaet - speaking as a Mac user, and not for my employer

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:44:12 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Random Beeps

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:45:00 EST you said:
>>PS: I'm running 701 with TU 111 on a PB 170 with a whole bunch of inits &
>>such: Quickeys, BAD, CEToolbox, First Things First, KSP 1.2, PowerOrgasm,
>                                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Now I've seen everyting!  What's this PowerOrgasm thing, anyway?????
>Must be a powerbook thing, but what does it do?

A short version of info-mac/sound/harry-met-sally.hqx that plays when
the AC is plugged into a PowerBook.  OK K-Mart shoppers, here's what you
do: get info-mac/sound/harry-met-sally.hqx and
info-mac/sound/program/sound-manager-package-175.hqx
Use Sound Mover 1.75 to edit sally in restaurant into several short
sounds (the beginning and in are particularly good, but the middle isn't
bad, just a tad repetitive).  Put those several sounds into a sound
suitcase and put the suitcase in your System Folder.  Then put
SndControl 2.0 (also in the Sound Manager Package) into your Control
Panel.

IF you have a PowerBook, open SndControl and select PB Plug in (if you
do NOT have a PowerBook, try Insert Disk instead ;-)  Then click
"randomize" and highlight the Sally sounds suitcase.  That way you get a
random assortment of Sally in the restaurant instead of the same sound
over and over.  I use SndControl to randomly choose among 135 sysbeeps,
a half dozen disk ejects, and so forth.  Why should a Mac's sounds be
predictable ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:45:47 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE- Backdrop for System

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:42:48 EDT you said:
>>My experience with !Deskpict 1.1 is that while it does display the file
>>named startupscreen just fine, icons(usually disks) stacked on the right
>>hand side of the desktop tend to disappear when emptying the trash. Its
>>not a major problem as they reappear when selected, but its good to know
>>about.

True.  One solution is to put the Trash can at the top of the screen
(actually, I keep mine just below the hard drive volumes so ejecting
floppy disks is just a quick drag).  Only the icons above the trashcan
get "sprayed."

>That's a good point, Mike.  I've experienced that myself.  Someone mentioned
>that the commercial DeskPicture (part of the Now Utilities package) was
>SUPPOSED to have fixed that.  I tried it and unfortunately it happens with
>DeskPicture as well.  Just FYI.  Bummer!  :-(

Indeed, DeskPict 3 ships with Now Utilities.  I've got Now 3.0.2, and
I've had NO repeats of the problem.  The commercial DeskPict permits
changing graphics without restarting.  I've read that DeskPict has been
dropped from Now 4.0 (and included in a different collection).  I just
got my Now 4 upgrade notice and DeskPict is NOT mentioned.

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Date: 18 Aug 92 08:02:33 U
From: "Denise Hutchinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Scheduling packages

Does any one know of a good scheduling package that would run on an AppleShare
server?

Thanks-  Denise Hutchinson

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:37:12 EST
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Linder)
Subject: Shareware/Freeware Master List?

Here's a question for someone out there...

Is there any such thing as a Master List of Shareware/Freeware/PostcardWare,
programs for the Mac out there?

Such a list, in my eyes, at least would contain information such as:

    Program Name
    Program Size
    Operating System Required (6.0.X) etc
    Author's Name
    Author's Contact Info
    Shareware Terms
    Description
    Category

If no such list exists, I would be happy to maintain and periodically upload a
FileMaker pro database or something similar?

Well, if anyone has any info, or if anyone is interested in my proposal,
please
drop me a note, or reply in the digest....

Jeff Linder - Small Business Support Services - Mac Sysop/Somerton Telecomm
                            215-464-6775 (2400
                            8N1)

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Date: 18 Aug 92 14:48:49 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Strange QM Message

               Subject:
               Strange QM Message
I just encountered a very bizarre QM message, and I was wondering if anyone
else had experienced it.

The setup:  Mac IIcx System 7.0.1 TuneUp 1.1.1, 5MB RAM, a moderate number of
extensions

The situation:  Person was printing labels from FileMaker Pro.  She said it
gave her some kind of memory message (she wasn't very specific), and she
instructed PrintMonitor to continue printing.  After which, she brought up QM
(2.5) to read a new message that came in.  She opened the message, and was
scrolling through, when an error dialog popped up with the message "QuickMail
System Message:  I am hopelessly out of memory..." and gave an OK button.
When
clicked, it pauses for a couple of seconds, then the title bar flashes black
(then back to normal), and the message reappears.  I ended up doing an
Option-Command-Esc to force QM to quit.  Then I got a message about a
communication error occurred which interrupted the print job from within
FileMaker.  I checked the memory allocation for all open apps.  System takes
up
2,051K, FileMaker Pro takes up 1,024K and PrintMonitor took up 80K.  The
thermometer on the System line was almost entirely filled.

After I rebooted, her machine seemed fine.  I had her open FileMaker Pro,
tried
printing, and opening QM, all with no problem.  She indicated to me some other
problems which sounds strangely like memory fragmentation problems.  Anyone
have any thoughts on this?

BTW, I apologize if you get duplicates.  I'm cross-posting this to QM-L,
CUQM-L
(the Cornell University QM administrators listserv), and Info-Mac.  I'm not
sure if it's necessarily a QM problem, but an odd QM message was a result of
it, and I was wondering if anyone had seen it or knew what is going on.

AtDhVaAnNkCsE     :-)

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: [phone]
 [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:13:44 CDT
From: Norbert Mueller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database

    If you do not need a too complex DB structure, try EndNote Plus
 which originally is a bibliographic data base, but can be used for other
applications too. It has a great user interface, the latest version even
works as a Word 5 plug in (but you can also use it with any other word
processor) and has exactly trrhe features you are looking for.

I am a VERY satisfied user.

Norbert Mueller
Institute of Chemistry
Johannes Kepler University
A-4040 LINZ
AUSTRIA


 P.S.: Endnote Plus is distributed in the USA by Niles & Associates
in Europe by Cherwell Scientific

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Date: 18 Aug 92 12:21 +0100
From: Robert Geisler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database ?? (A)

In Info-Mac Digest 10:196 Jim Allison asks:
>Does anyone in etherSpace know of a Mac or even a PC database which can
handle
>superscripts
>or subscripts.  FileMaker Pro, reputedly the most graphically sophisticated
of
>the Mac databases,
>can neither create superscripts or subscripts nor display them when they are
>copy/pasted from
>WordPerfect.
A convenient workaround is to use a special font that has all characters
shifted
up or down by an appropriate amount (like 1/4 the character size). When you
need
superscripts or subscripts, just select that font.
I have created a "Times Superscript" bitmap font (for use with a HyperCard
database) but of course this should be properly done in TrueType or Postscript
by someone who has access to the appropriate font utilities...

Robert Geisler

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Date: 18 Aug 1992 11:52:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Lunderville <[e-mail]>
Subject: Telephone number for Security Concepts?  (Q)

Hello,

In the September issue of Macworld magazine, David Pogue discusses
a variety of PowerBook accessories. (Desktop Critic, p. 327).

One of the items he mentions is a security strap made by Security
Concepts. The telephone number given for Security Concepts in the
"Where To Buy" section is wrong.

Can anyone give me what the correct telephone number for Security Concepts?

Thanks.

Dan Lunderville

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:55 PDT
From: Don Nakanishi/Gann Matsuda           <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tetris Clones

Just thought I'd let people know that ANY game named "Tetris" or that
includes "Tetris" in it that is not published by Spectrum Holobyte
undoubtedly violates copyright laws.  I've noticed two new "Tetris clones"
uploaded here in the past few days.  I believe that the folks at Spectrum
Holobute know that there are such clones out there, and they may decide one
day to clamp down.  Just a friendly warning!

Gann

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:41:00 MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: That extra partition (was when is an xHD not an xHD)

I just pulled out my formatting software to take a look at that extra
partition that is taking up about 3.8megs of space.  In that partition is
stuff called A/UX autorecovery and other A/UX stuff.  I was just wondering
what sort of effect deleting this stuff will have on users whether they are
using A/UX or not and what exactly these files do?

    Aric Friesen

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:46:53 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Translators for IIe to Mac

On Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:16:13 -0400 you said:
>I was wondering if anyone has heard/seen of a translation utility for
>PRO-DOS similiar to Dataviz's utilities for PC to Mac (and back)
>transfer.

Both AppleWorks and AppleWorks GS show up in my word processor's menu
thanks to Claris (which includes the translators with MacWrite II and
ClarisWorks).  No one has given me any AppleWorks files to try the
translators on, so I can't say now well they might work.

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Date: 18 Aug 92 21:22 +0100
From: Robert Geisler <[e-mail]>
Subject: VMS Mail (Summary)

In Info-Mac Digest 10:189 I asked:
>Does anyone know whether there is a Macintosh frontend for VMS Mail, or a
>Macintosh mailing system that can interface with VMS Mail? Our Mac-to-Vax
>connection is by TCP/IP.
I would like to say thanks to all the people who offered advice. To summarize,
seven people recommended the PD mail application Eudora, which requires a POP
server on the VAX, such as IUPOP3 (available from logos.ucs.indiana.edu) or
Multinet. One (Tim Castle) suggested the SMTP client, LeeMail (but see Mike
Brudenell's remarks in Info-Mac Digest 193). LeeMail must be running all the
time so as not to lose incoming mail and does not seem to allow more than one
user per Mac. Two people favored DEC's Mail for Macintosh, which seems to be
nearest to the "frontend" I had in mind. The snag is that DEC Germany sells
MfM
only as part of the Pathworks for Macintosh package, at a price of about DM
700
per Mac. I think I will find out whether there is any chance to buy Pathworks
for our local network, and otherwise try to get a POP server installed.
Thanks once more,

Robert Geisler

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:38:10 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: VMS Mail on Macs

Just thought I would mention the way we are doing this... if you have
TCP/IP support on your VAX, you can use Eudora (what I use) or LeeMail on
the Mac to read mail that originated on the VAX.  We have a TCP/IP package
called CMUTEK, from Carnegie-Mellon University, that is pseudo-public
domain... (they require a license agreement, and charge about $150 for
making tapes and such... might be negotiable, or you might have a license
already...) this package works very well for us.  Eudora requires a POP3
mail server (there is a public one called IUPOP3 that works with CMUTek),
or you can use LeeMail straight into the SMTP part of CMUTek.  The CMUTek
package includes an interface to standard VMS mail.  Please let me know if
you want any of this clarified... I know this looks like a mess.

                        Respectfully,
                        Don Pugsley

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:07:46 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word Indexing (Solution)

A few hours after sending the message asking how to make word produce
"section" breaks in an index, I figured out how to do it. Instead of making
all of the entries "level 1", I made them level 2 under the appropriate
letter. For example, instead of indexing Hands, I indexed H:Hands. I then
set up styles to make the A B, C, etc. bold and have space before and after
the paragraph.

If anyone has any questions about this, I would be willing to explain it in
more detail.

Thanks.

Scott Gruby
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 11:34:12 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: XferIt author.

Does anyone know how to get hold of Steven Falkenburg, author of XferIt. I
sent him a cheque for the shareware fees, and have sent a couple of
messages to [e-mail] but have had no response. The cheque was sent
in May and I still have not got the authorization code to get rid of the
"Unregistered Copy" dialog box.
Thanks for any help on this.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:00:58 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alon Mogilner)

Dear netters:

I think I might be able to help out Terence Mc Goff with his ethernet
transceiver problems. We too had a number of transceiver-related problems
on our ethernet network, which includes 2 Macs and 4 or 5 Sun Sparcstations.
It seems that there is an option available on some transceivers to enable or
disable something known as the SQE or "heartbeat" signal. From what I have
been told, this signal is sent after each packet signifying receipt of said
packet. Now, some machines seem to like this heartbeat while others can't
deal with it, resulting in a variety of errors, such as the timeout errors
you have described. Anyway, if possible, turn off SQE/heartbeat on ALL the
transceivers on ALL the machines on the network and then see what happens.
On our Macs here we have Apple ethernet NB cards, purchased about 2 years
ago. Our network manager here told me that on those cards, SQE is disabled.
(I can't vouch for the newer Apple ethernet cards, though).
On our sun transceivers, we have a little switch to turn SQE on or off (Some
transceivers require removal of a jumper inside the box). Anyway, try
turning off the SQE everywhere possible. If that doesn't solve the problem,
I guess you could try to turn it ON everywhere, and if that STILL doesn't
solve the problem, I'm way out of my league and can only offer my moral
support.


Good Luck.


Alon Mogilner               ([e-mail])
Center for Neuromagnetism
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
New York University School of Medicine

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