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- From: sfk@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Knight)
- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:52:50 GMT
- Subject: Re: "Typist Plus Graphics" OCR -- How good?
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- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
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- > I'm always on the lookout for a good, not-too-expensive OCR program,
- > and I noticed this one today. It comes with a hand-held scanner and
- > the catalog claims it "recognizes text in any non-stylized font..."
- > etc. The only requirement is 4 megs of RAM, which I have (exactly).
-
- Some general remarks about Typist+ and then some about using it with
- a Classic, which is as near to a Plus as I've got.
-
- I recently bought Typist+ myself and I was pleasantly surprised by how
- effective it is. My expectations were not very high -- it is an inexpensive
- hand-scanner -- so it was no surprise to find that the hardware is
- inelegant. Here's an attempted description of the hardware.
-
- The Typist+ comes as TWO main devices and a PSU. There is the hand-scanner
- itself and a separate "SCSI box". The SCSI box sits on the chain and comes
- without a terminator (it works fine without the terminator). The scanner
- unit itself is actually nicely engineered and I'll describe it in more
- detail later. The SCSI box also needs a suitable power supply, and the
- enclosed PSU is most ugly -- having a separate icky connecting cable
- before it goes into a wall socket. (Presumably so that you can use other
- power sources.) Still, there's plenty of cable length, which is actually
- important with a hand-scanner. Maybe this picture will help.
-
- wall socket
- |
- |
- x icky plug
- |
- PSU
- |
- my | my
- mac -------> "scsi box" -------> external disc
- |
- |
- hand-held scanner unit
-
-
- The scanner unit itself is a neat black plastic unit -- fairly big. The
- scanning width is 14cm and the head is about 16cm wide. It feels bulky
- in the hand but is light and doesn't seem to tire my hand when using it.
- (Someone with small hands might not feel the same way.) It's got a small
- bar just behind the head, a bit like a big mouse button. When this "scanning
- bar" is pressed, Typist+ wakes up and gets ready to read. Using it is
- a cinch.
-
- It's a 300dpi scanning unit. It's really geared up for character
- recognition, though. The image processing software that comes with it
- is minimal. I guess it's just about fine for getting images in.
- Anything more is *painful*. I also find it counter-intuitive but I
- need to RTFM again before I pass final comment.
-
-
- > My questions are: will it run on a Mac Plus (system 6.*); how fast and
- > how reliable is it? Personal experiences welcome. Email me and I'll
- > summarize if I get enough testimonials. Thanks in advance.
-
- I bought it when I was still using a 4MB Classic (I've just upgraded to
- an SE30). I don't know how a Classic compares with the MacPlus but I can
- guess you aren't going to enjoy the thrill of an open road ....
- The blurb in the manual says "a Mac SE or better". I'd check with
- Caere -- I've enclosed their address below.
-
- On my Classic, Typist+ works sort of OK with two big provisos. Firstly,
- when Typist runs a OCR, it *requires* you to already be in a text processing
- application, because when its analysed the text its going to send a
- pile of keyboard events to the foreground application.
- This means you need at least enough RAM for the System,
- your text processor, and the Typist application to run at the same time.
- I ran with System 7.0 and my usual word processor was Word 5.0. Typist+
- just won't fit in 4MB. Secondly, you need to book your holiday before
- you do any scanning.
-
- As far as memory goes, you might find that running System 6.0.x is a
- cure-all. (Frankly, I'd rather trash my Mac and buy a PC.) My
- solution was to use BBEdit, which is modest enough and powerful enough
- for this job. If you're that sort of person, you can use TeachText.
- That works fine, too.
-
- (When you use the scanner as an image scanning device, it works
- standalone, so there aren't these memory hassles.)
-
- Performance is an issue. I can copy-type faster than Typist+ does
- OCR on a Classic. And I can't touch type. Furthermore, performance
- depends crucially on two factors. The quality of the copy you are working
- from is very important. Good quality copy (e.g. newspaper, magazine)
- goes in without trouble. Poor quality copy (e.g. mouldering photocopies
- of monographs used as a privvy by 100000s of homeless arthropods) takes
- a great deal more time. The other factor is the setting you choose for
- "brightness".
-
- Typist+ expects you to tell it how light or dark the text (or image) you
- are scanning is. This takes practice and it isn't too difficult. But
- guessing wrongly not only degrades the accuracy to an unacceptable level
- but boosts computation time to infinity. I don't know why Typist+ can't
- work this out for itself. (It's obvious why it has to do this with
- image scanning.)
-
- Furthermore, interrupting Typist+ whilst it's in the middle of a deep
- think works -- but expect a 30 second delay on a Classic.
-
- (Scanning images is acceptably fast, though. However, any subsequent
- image processing is mind-bogglingly slow. Use something (anything) else.)
-
- Having said all this nasty stuff, I ought to balance it up with the
- reasons I'm pleased with the thing. Although I *can* copy-type about as
- fast as Typist+ can read it in, I find it a strain on my concentration.
- Typist+ changes the job from tedious copying to straightforward copying.
- I got it to scan in a load of articles I wrote in my distant youth. It's
- been a pleasure rather than a mind-destroying chore.
-
- Its accuracy on good quality text is quite amazing. I received a wedding
- invitation through the post the day I got Typist+ home. Naturally that
- went straight under the scanner (hey, that looks *fancy* I bet it screws
- up). 100% recognition. In fact, provided
- you can stand the waiting -- I just go and make some tea and watch the TV --
- it's a really simple and good solution for entering text. On the
- typewritten stuff that I'm entering there's about one mistake per paragraph.
- Furthermore, that mistake is usually correctly flagged by Typist+. The
- stuff I'm entering is typewritten text from about 12 years ago -- so this
- is fine by my standards.
-
- Whether or not it is a "good buy" if you've got a machine as low-powered
- as a Classic or a Plus is going to be a difficult decision. If you've got
- a lot of copy-typing of *good* quality text, I'd say it's a maybe. I
- didn't regret it but I'd guess I would be in a minority. If you are
- considering upgrading your Mac in the none too distant future, then
- it's a yes. Obviously, you should consider more expensive solutions, too.
- But I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase. And now I've got an 8MB SE30
- I've no complaints (yet).
-
- And, in case it isn't obvious, Caere don't recommend using Typist+
- with anything as weedy as a Classic or a Plus. It's probably a warning
- you should take seriously. And I don't work for Caere and I don't know
- anyone who does. I'm just a customer.
-
- I hope this helps.
-
- Steve Knight
-
- The manufacturers of Typist+ are Caere. Here's the address from the manual.
- CAERE CORPORATION
- 100 Cooper Court
- Los Gatos
- California 95030
- Tel (408) 395-7000
- FAX: (408) 354-2743
-
-