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- From: alheid@sedist.cray.com (Greg Alheid)
- Subject: Re: differences between "normal" IBM PC compatible and IBM PS/2
- Message-ID: <1992Aug14.192554.25062@walter.cray.com>
- Sender: alheid@sedist (Greg Alheid)
- Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
- References: <0095E970.770AE760@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> <1992Aug12.204619.17149@walter.cray.com>
- Date: 14 Aug 92 19:25:53 CDT
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- This is a correction to my orginial posting. Sorry, I should have
- had the book to do this with in the first place, 8^(
-
- The book I am NOW referencing is:
- _THE MICROCHANNEL ARCHITECTURE HANDBOOK_
- by Chet Heath and Winn L. Rosch
- A Brady Book, Distributed by Prentice Hall Trade
- ISBN 0-13-583493-7
- COPYRIGHT 1990 (close to 2 years old)
-
- |>
- |> The bus for the IBM PC and AT is now know as ISA bus, (Industry
- |> Standard Arch). The problems with the ISA bus and how the PS/2 and
- |> MCA bus (Micro Channel Arch.) solved them are:
- |>
- |> - ISA uses edge triggered interrupts, unable to share interuppts.
- |> + MCA uses level triggered interrupts, allowing shared interuppts.
- |>
-
- The following is in error:
-
- |> - ISA is limited to 12 address lines for I/O devices, 4096 device
- |> addresses but each device can take four at least, so more like
- |> only 1024 "devices". But the system consumes something like the
- |> first 512 devices for necessary system functions.
- |> + MCA has 16 address lines for I/O devices, so it has 65,536 device
- |> addresses, but again more like 16,384 devices. System still
- |> needs the first 512 devices but it is not as noticeable. 8^)
-
- The corrected statements are:
-
- - Orginial ISA boards used only 10 address lines to decode an
- I/O device, constraining the ISA bus to 1024 device addresses.
- Of that the system uses most of the first 256 devices address
- leaving 768 devices addresses. But each "I/O device" can take
- three device address for command, status and data, so there is
- more like a limit of about 256 "I/O devices".
- + MCA boards are required to use 16 address lines to decocode an
- I/O devices address, so MCA is capble of 65,536 device addresses.
- But again the system uses most of the first 256 devices address.
- This leaves 65,280 device addresses to use. If three device
- address are used (cmd-status-data), only 21,760 "I/O devices".
- |>
- |>
- |> - ISA has noisy signal lines (lack of "good" grounding) which can
- |> be a source of strange problems.
- |> + MCA has more ground signals between data, so is less noisy.
- |>
-
- The following is in error:
-
- |> - ISA is "normally" 8 Mhz and can only transfer two bytes every
- |> two clock periods, so 8 Mbytes max. transfer rate.
- |> + MCA is "16 Mhz minimun, and can with "burst" transfers can go
- |> over 50 MBytes a sec. (Don't really remember what current max
- |> value is.)
-
- The corrected statements are:
-
- - ISA is "normally" 8 Mhz and can only transfer two bytes every
- three clock periods, (adr-wait-data) giving a 5.3 Mbytes/sec
- transfer rate. The ISA bus has been run as fast 12.5 MHz, which
- will give a 8.3 MBytes/sec. max. transfer rate.
- + MCA bus"normally" runs at 10 MHz, but the book "hints" that
- the bus is not constrained in this and could run at 20 Mhz in
- the future. There are also several `transfer modes' available,
- burst, streaming and multiplexed streaming I/O transfers as well
- as a matched memory cycle for CPU r/w that can be implemented.
-
- The maximium transfer rates on a 10 MHz MCA bus:
-
- 16-bit MCA 32-bit MCA
- Normal transfers 10MBytes/sec 20 MBytes/sec
- (adr/data)
-
- short Burst and long
- Streaming transfers 20MBytes/sec 40 MBytes/sec
- (adr/data data data ..)
-
- Multiplex Streaming (not available) 80 MBytes/sec
- (as above and uses the
- `idle' adr lines to
- transfer data as well,
- for a 64-bit transfer)
-
- Matched Memory cycle 21.3 MBytes/sec
- (matched memory cycle
- changes the timing of (32 MBytes/sec w/o
- the MCA bus to 62.5 added wait state
- nanosec. for a 187.5 at 62.5 Nanosec.
- 4 byte adr-wait-data and 40 MBytes/sec
- transfer cycle. This with 50 nanosec
- is on a 16 Mhz model timing)
- 80 as an example.)
-
- |> There are several other problems of the ISA bus solved by the
- |> PS/2 and MCA design but I would have to copy them from a book to
- |> get them technically right.
-
- I had to check the book to get these corrections! The book lists
- mechcanical problems of insertion forces, which can cause problems
- with bending the motherboard. Also being able to disable an I/O
- board that fails.
-
- |>
- |> Also PS/2s also have a Watchdog timer which will cause a NMI and
- |> will allow the system to recover from program loops and "some" other
- |> possible causes of system hangs. But the software to do has to be
- |> available like it is in OS/2. (This feature is not dependent on the
- |> MCA design)
- |>
- |>
-
- --
- ____________________________________________________________________
- | Greg Alheid | Everything is going well so I am |
- | alheid@pittpa.cray.com | not sure what the problem is. 8^) |
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