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- From: kww@cbnews.cb.att.com (kevin.w.wall)
- Subject: In search of cheap backups...
- Reply-To: kww@cblph.att.com
- Organization: AT&T
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:01:46 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Aug20.030146.13118@cbnews.cb.att.com>
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- About a month ago, I purchased a used DECstation 5000/120 from DEC's used
- rotational (demo) stock. (Don't ask about the price; it will just make you
- jealous.:-) This DECstation came equipped with 2 internal SCSI drives
- (total of ~ 330MB) and an internal CD-ROM drive. After configuring the
- system and loading all the software, I am now ready to really begin
- doing something useful with it, but I'm a bit reluctant to do anything
- too serious until I find some mechanism of doing backups. (Both disks
- are too full to use for backups.)
-
- Since this is my new personal toy at home, I am not attached to any
- LANs via TCP/IP, DECnet, etc. Nor do I have a tape drive, floppy drive,
- or sufficient free disk space to do backups on.
-
- Because this machine was purchased with my own $$, I don't wish to spend a
- bundle just to be able to do backups. (I.e., I would like something as
- cheap as possible; the standard solution of a new TK50Z in an expansion
- box purchased from Digital is out of the question.)
-
- My friend who works at DEC suggested I look into buying a used and/or
- refurbished tape drive or floppy drive. However, either solution
- would have to be contained in an expansion box; with 2 internal SCSI
- disks and that CD-ROM drive, there isn't a whole lot of room left
- inside.
-
- I was wondering if anyone knows of any companies that sell either used
- and/or refurbished tape drives or floppy drives for the DECstation 5000?
- (I didn't see advertisements for any when I perused a few copies of old
- DEC trade magazines.)
-
- Unlike the PERSONAL DECstation models, the DS/5000 has no internal floppy
- controller, so apparently I would have to use a floppy drive with a SCSI
- controller (which is a lot more expensive no doubt). I'm beginning to
- think that the cheapest backup solution is to by a cheap PC with a 100MB
- or so drive and then do backups over the RS232C serial ports from the
- workstation to the PC. Since I only want to back up the user files (and
- not the things I can reload from the Ultrix CD), probably a 100MB drive
- will suffice.
-
- Of course, buying a tape or floppy drive has the additional value of getting
- files on/off my machine. My only alternative right now is to use a modem.
-
- Anyone out there have any good ideas about doing backups, etc. I'd say that
- I'd like to keep the cost as low as possible, since it would be rather hard
- to justify spending more for doing backups than I did on the whole system.
- If that means buying a third-party solution or used/rebuilt peripherals,
- then so be it. I'd even be will to write a device driver if I had to.
- (I've written one for a AT&T 3B2 long ago and have had a lot of SVR? kernel
- experience so if Ultrix isn't TOO different, I could probably do it,
- although this certainly wouldn't be my preference. I'd rather be able
- to use an existing device driver.)
-
- Anyway, I'd be interested in hearing any other proposals from those out
- in USENET-land. E-mail to me is preferrable, but if you'd rather
- respond via a followup article, then be my guest.
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- In person: Kevin W. Wall AT&T Bell Laboratories
- Usenet/UUCP: {att!}cblph!kww 6200 E. Broad St.
- Internet: kww@cblph.att.com Columbus, Oh. 43213
-
- "In actual experience (in particular, before breakfast)
- multiplication tends to be non-communtative." -- W. Fuller
-