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- From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
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- Subject: Re: Info on Storage Subsystems for Vax Clusters
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- Date: 19 Aug 92 17:07:00 GMT
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- I am going to be a little careful as much of what I have been told was udner non-disclosure. Fortunately not all.
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- Note that DEC has a LOT of information available undernon-disclosure in the US
- since some of this stuff is getting close to announcement.
-
- I am looking out for equipment that will replace the HSCs
- or co-exist with them on the CI Bus, that is, connected to the Star
- coupler directly be faster in terms of I/O requests /sec and have
- some measure of redundancy maybe a RAID solution.
-
- Digital has publicly mentioned that they are working on RAID solutions.
- THe only public mentions I recall were on software based solutions ala
- Volume Shadows phase II but for higher levels of raid, ultimately all the way
- up.
-
- Have these Companies made agreements with DEC to interface
- on to the CI bus, or would we be likely to see some legal issues
- comming to the surface as they have in the past ?
- Check careful (get in writing) wether the firmware is based on DECs new
- CI licensing program or will be converted to it. There were some problems
- with early products not being fully compliant and some of us have fought
- for a long time to get DEC to license out its valuable technologies.
- There are going to be some licensed products. If a vendor can't cover license
- fees and wont; guarentee compatibility or replacement with a compatible
- solution then something is wrong.
-
- Paralell disk arrays appear at the Files 11 level as one large disk, today.
- That puts some obviouslimits on its potential size. Of course you can
- split those into pieces at the vax end and a full hardware soltuion
- like failsafe can lie about its configuration anyway it wants but there
- are some real advantages to keeping the physical to logical disk mapping
- relatively straightforwards.
-
- What happens in the Backup area? If chunks are distributed
- across multiple spindles is backup in the traditional sense meaningful?
-
- A storage solutions expand the notionof backup becomes much harder.
- At first blush you go to logical backups of the disks if you find the
- reliability insufficient or for other purposes. Then youg et into
- heirarchical datastores and have to add a whole new level of thinking.
-
- Either it is a special case of date replication or it is nextus of tools
- including a file system level journal and set of data dumps.
-