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- I hadn't noticed this yet, so I figured I'd post it...
-
- Mike
-
- America Online
- Apple II Utilities & Desk Accessories Forum Chat
- Forum Leader-Joe Schober [ AFL JoeyS ]
- Forum Assistant-Warren Hart [ AFA Warren ]
- Forum Consultant-John Copple [ AFC JohnC ]
- Forum Consultant-Andy Nicholas [ ShrinkIt ]
- Wednesday -July 29, 1992 - 9pm EST
- Topic: KFest Avatar Universe Master Animasia Sys 6.01 Super
- Drives HSTs
-
- Edited transcript of an Apple II Utilities & Desk
- Accessories Conference. The date and topic of the conference
- is listed above. This is a regular text file. No further
- processing is necessary.
-
-
- AFA Warren Tonight's subject is KFest
-
- AFL JoeyS So, who all DID make it to KFest?? :)
-
- JoshuaT256 As I was telling Warren, I was there from
- Thursday to Sunday.
-
- AFL JoeyS Comments on the show... people, products,
- announcements, general feelings?
-
- AFL JoyceM Was the IIGS clone shown, seen, etc?
-
- AFL JoeyS The Avatar, Joyce? It's not a IIgs clone,
- really...
-
- JoshuaT256 Bill had a conference on it. From what he said,
- it actually sounds feasible to me.
-
- AFL JoyceM Yes, the Avatar
-
- JoshuaT256 It's more of a nifty 65816 machine that happens
- to have GS emulation.
-
- AFL JoeyS Yes, well, Bill is one of the people who can
- certainly do it TECHNICALLY. Funding is a different
- matter.
-
- AFL JoyceM Conferences are nice, but did anyone see it, the
- Avatar, that is?
-
- AFC Ted And getting people to buy it is a third matter
-
- AFL JoyceM People to support is still another matter,
- developers, etc.
-
- AFL JoeyS No, Joyce. I don't even think Bill has a
- prototype yet, let alone a demo model.
-
- AFL JoeyS Joshua, was Bill's conf under non-disclosure?
-
- JoshuaT256 No, the conf was open to one and all.
-
- AFL JoyceM So, it is a 'just talk about' item?
-
- AFL JoeyS Pretty much, yes, for now. (comp.sys.apple2 is
- going CRAZY over it... %)
-
- AFL JoeyS Okay, wouldja mind hitting the highlights, then,
- Josh? :)
-
- JoshuaT256 Sure. Basically, it's a 10 MHz 65816 machine
- layed out like a star LAN network.
-
- AFC Ted What does that mean?
-
- JoshuaT256 There's several coprocessors doing much of the
- work, and the '816 does the coordination. The graphics chip
- is a 34010 right now, but Bill is looking into maybe a
- 34020, depending on cost. Lemme dig up my notes here for
- more...
-
- AFL JoyceM What's the difference between a 34010 and 34020?
-
- AFL JoeyS (For those not familiar with the 340xx graphics
- chips, they allow you to have, among other things, a large
- virtual display map... i.e. the chip itself can manage a
- high-resolution, high-color image. This image can then be
- scaled to the actual platform hosting the chip.) (Scaled's
- not the right word, but hopefully you get the idea... :)
-
- AFL Marty Would that be analogous to display postscript,
- Joe?
-
- AFL JoeyS No, Marty. The chip isn't a definition-oriented
- chip... it still does bitmaps. But the chip can handle
- bitmaps of a much higher quality than the host machine
- actually offers... and the chip can be
-
- JoshuaT256 Okay, I've got my diagram now. There's a 65265
- microCONTROLLER handling a serial mouse port and a MIDI
- port. The keyboard is connected directly to the '816
- though. A disk controller handles two serial ports, a
- parallel port, a CD-ROM port, an IDE hard drive port, and
- the floppy drives. It's a "state machine" like the Disk II,
- and it can read Apple II GCR disks, MFM disks (IBM and Mac
- high density), as well as Amiga/Atari ST GCR disks.
-
- AFL JoyceM GCR?
-
- AFC Ted What does "state machine" mean?
-
- JoshuaT256 Group Code Recording. It's kind of technical.
-
- AFL JoyceM Gotcha...thx
-
- JoshuaT256 Basically it reads Apple II, Mac, IBM, Amiga, and
- Atari ST disks.
-
- AFC Ted it refers to how data is recorded on the disk,
- Joyce.
-
- AFL JoyceM Thanks, Ted
-
- AFL JoeyS scaled simply by upgrading its memory, as I
- understand it. Don't quote me on this stuff. :D
-
- JoshuaT256 There are four AT-style slots. Each slot is
- mapped to 256k of memory in banks $C0 through $DF. So each
- slot gets four banks of memory space. And finally, there
- are optional "sub-processors". The minimum will be 3 or 4,
- and in theory up to 65,536 (!) can be present. They
- communicate with the 65816 over a fully arbitrated
- high-speed bus. These processors can be of ANY type, maybe
- more 65816 chips, or 65265 chips, or 80386's. They will be
- carried on credit-card style peripheral cards. It will be
- possible to offload tasks to these subprocessors for true
- multiprocessing. In theory, you could add a 386
- subprocessor and make the Avatar run MessyDOS software.
-
- AFL JoyceM Will we see an actual machine in our lifetime?
- What help does Bill need, etc.?
-
- JoshuaT256 Bill says that confidential project for another
- company has given him enough capital to build some
- prototypes.
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool... :)
-
- JoshuaT256 What I'd like to see is funding from Bill Mensch.
-
- AFL JoeyS From Bill Mensch?? Yeah, it'd be nice, but don't
- hold yer breath... <sigh>
-
- JoshuaT256 Bill has certainly got this thing well planned
- out. He's even figured out how to emulate the Apple II
- video modes without reverse-engineering a Mega II.
-
- AFL JoeyS What's he gonna do about the ROM infringement
- problem? (insert "copyright" in some appropriate place
- there)
-
- JoshuaT256 Basically they're gonna try to clean-room all new
- toolbox routines. Jawaid is one of the people helping Bill
- with that. I almost forgot, the 65265 chip handles the
- sound. Full stereo digital sound. As far as I know though,
- it won't emulate the Ensoniq chip.
-
- AFL JoeyS Sort of a problem for IIgs emulation. %)
-
- AFL JoyceM Great, Joshua ....re the stereo digi sound :)
- Why won't it emulate the Ensoniq chip?
-
- JoshuaT256 For some stuff, yes. Anything using tools will
- work, but all the nifty MOD players won't :( It may emulate
- the DOC, I don't have that info written down here. I didn't
- have a notebook and was jotting this down on the back of a
- sheet of paper
-
- AFL JoeyS It'd be interesting to see 'em try to duplicate
- MIDI Synth on another chip... %)
-
- AFL JoyceM True, Joey :)
-
- AFL JoeyS LOL... crowded sheet of paper, I'd think. :)
-
- JoshuaT256 You bet. Most of it is a block diagram of the
- machine's architecture. Maybe I'll scan it at work and
- upload the darn thing :)
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool... that'd be good, :). Thanks, Josh!
- Appreciate the overview... :)
-
- AFL JoyceM What format, Joshua?
-
- JoshuaT256 You're welcome. There's a lot more to the Expo
- though!
-
- AFL JoeyS I know, Josh. :) You wanna keep going, or are
- your fingers about to fall off? :)
-
- JoshuaT256 Joyce, I can upload it in ANY format. I'll scan
- on a Mac (I work at an Apple dealer), but I can convert it.
-
- AFL JoyceM Would appreciate that, Joshua...(have an Apple
- IIGS, not a Mac)
- :)
-
- JoshuaT256 I've got plenty more on other things. Foundation
- was released officially.
-
- AFL JoyceM What actually is Foundation?
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool... that's a hot resource utility. :)
-
- JoshuaT256 It's a resource editor. It's still a bit bare,
- but it crashes less than Genesys does.
-
- AFL JoeyS Closest description, Joyce: ResEdit.
-
- AFL JoyceM Oh, I remember....thanks...
-
- JoshuaT256 I own a copy and I'm working on an rBundle editor
- for it.
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool. Did Mike Nuzzi/Triad release the
- rSoundSample editor for it?
-
- JoshuaT256 Yep, it was selling for $25 I believe. I didn't
- buy that part, since I don't really need it.
-
- AFC SteveB Yep...SoundREM was selling.
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool... :)
-
- AFC SteveB (SoundREM's been final for a few weeks)
-
- JoshuaT256 Animasia was showing demos of Animasia 3-D, an
- animation and rendering program for the GS. The darn thing
- actually can read AutoCAD DXF files!
-
- AFL JoeyS Terrific, Josh! How was its performance?
-
- JoshuaT256 I was watching the animation and it was pretty
- smooth. One of the programmers said it would be even
- better by release, with better dithering of the colors when
- rendering. And it's supposed to retail for only $99, an
- incredible deal for a rendering application!
-
- AFC SteveB Animasia is incredible. It does everything.
-
- AFL JoeyS No kidding, Josh! Did they have an estimated
- release date?
-
- JoshuaT256 Sometime later this year. I have the propaganda
- sheet around here but I cant find it.
-
- AFC JohnC Did Apple have anything to announce this time
- around?
-
- JoshuaT256 ECON Technologies released a new hard drive
- utility called Universe Master. I ran out of money though
-
- JoshuaT256 System 6.0.1 was shown. It has some minor but
- wonderful improvements.
-
- AFL JoyceM Like what,Joshua on 6.01?
-
- JoshuaT256 The primary purpose of 6.0.1 will be to support
- the Apple II EtherNet card (coming later this year) For
- one, it has keyboard navigation in the Finder, so you can
- move between icons with the arrow keys You can also click
- on the column titles on "view by..." windows to change
- views.
-
- AFL JoyceM I 'read' that it would also have MSDos FST, on
- 6.01? is that true?
-
- AFL JoeyS Makes it all more Mac-like. %)
-
- JoshuaT256 Provided no bugs are found in it, the MS-DOS FST
- will be out ina read-only form with 6.0.1
-
- AFL JoyceM Any release date on 6.01?
-
- JoshuaT256 It's supposed to be as fast reading as the ProDOS
- FST, and later on they will make it read/write
-
- AFC Ted "When it's ready" :)
-
- JoshuaT256 That's it, Ted.
-
- AFL JoeyS The MS-DOS FST (read-only) was announced, yes.
- It'll require a SuperDrive to read 3.5" floppies, or you'll
- be able to read other devices (i.e. Syquest cartridges)
- directly, if you want.
-
- JoshuaT256 The EasyMount extension is now built-in as "Make
- Alias..." and works for anything except documents, and even
- that may change if time permits.
-
- AFL JoeyS But the aliases are only valid from within
- Finder, correct?
-
- AFC Ted Who's doing the revisions to the Finder?
-
- JoshuaT256 They didn't say, but that's what I assumed.
-
- JoshuaT256 Dave Lyons is heading up the Finder work to my
- understanding.
-
- JoshuaT256 Oh, speaking of speed, there's an 18% speed
- increase in the HFS FST. And whoever wrote that INIT to
- scroll the boot icons will be out of businesss when 6.0.1
- ships :(
-
- LindaW19 Any change in floppy drivers?
-
- AFL JoeyS Yeah, the faster HFS FST will be NICE...
- ('specially for those of us with large HFS HD partitions %)
-
- JoshuaT256 No change to the drivers, Linda, except the
- Appletalk drivers (added EtherNet support)
-
- AFL JoyceM Did I miss when 6.01 is supposed to be released?
-
- AFL JoeyS "RSN", Joyce. :)
-
- JoshuaT256 There was no firm release date, Joyce, just
- another "when it's done" type answer.
-
- AFL JoyceM Oh..that answer, thx
-
- AFC SteveB 6.0.1 will fix the problem that made people go
- back to 5.0.4 drivers, too.
-
- AFC Ted Which problem was that, Steve?
-
- LindaW19 That's what I was asking about.
-
- AFL JoyceM What problems?
-
- JoshuaT256 It was interesting to see how fast SuperDrive
- controllers sold at the show after the FST was shown!
-
- AFL JoyceM GMTA
-
- Spottysoft The 5.25 drives..... (non Apple ones..)
-
- AFC SteveB Disappearing volumes was the problem -I think-.
-
- AFL JoyceM I don't have the problem.....
-
- JoshuaT256 It was really bad with Vulcans.
-
- LindaW19 Will the AMR 3.5" drive pain still be there?
-
- Spottysoft Josh.... what were the SuperDrive cards going
- for??
-
- AFL JoyceM And the drives $$$$$?
-
- JoshuaT256 We were selling them at the Alltech booth for
- $139. The list is $149, and some places had them @ $129.
- The card is a lot more complex than the old 3.5 controller.
- It appears to have an actual coprocessor of some sort on it.
-
- Spottysoft Apple FDHD is $429 I think, Joyce... same as the
- Apple 3.5 (800K).
-
- AFL JoyceM What slot must they go in? Thanks, Spotty...was
- afraid of that price
-
- JoshuaT256 Any slot Joyce, but usually slot 5, since this
- card replaces the built-in 3.5" controller.
-
- AFL JoeyS Right... the FDHD basically bumped the Apple 3.5
- Drive off the price list (I don't believe the 800K drive is
- actually sold anymore, since you CAN use a SuperDrive as a
- 800K if you want).
-
- JoshuaT256 At the dealer where I work we sell FDHDs for
- $259.
-
- AFL JoyceM Oh...so you either have 3.5" or FDHD? but not
- both?
-
- Rook2 FDHD?
-
- AFL JoeyS No, Joyce, you can have both.
-
- LindaW19 Will some of the cheap ones sold for the Mac
- (Fujitsu, for ex) work?
-
- JoshuaT256 You can have both on one controller card.
-
- Spottysoft There are some third party drives (for Macs)
- tho... but whether or not they work on an Apple II is
- another animal.
-
- AFL JoeyS Rook: Floppy Disk/High Density... Apple's 1.44
- megabyte 3.5" SuperDrive.
-
- AFC Ted Floppy DIsk High density, or something like that
-
- AFL JoyceM But according to what Joey said, why have both?
-
- JoshuaT256 If the drivers are truly Apple-compatible then
- they should work. I've heard AE's drives work great.
-
- AFL JoeyS Well, having two 3.5" drives is always nice,
- Joyce... and there's no upgrade plan from Apple 3.5"s to
- SuperDrives.
-
- AFL JoyceM I have 2 now...but a FDHD sure looks inviting
- too...oh well,
-
- Rook2 How much more is a HD, why would you buy a FDHD?
-
- LindaW19 I haven't thought of a _good_ reason, at least
- for me.
-
- AFL JoeyS Biggest reason, Rook, is to exchange floppy disks
- with other computers... in case you missed it, Apple
- announced an MS-DOS FST for IIgs System 6.0.1, that allows
- you to directly read MS-DOS disks on the GS... IF you have
- a SuperDrive.
-
- AFC JohnC 105 meg is about $60 more than list price
-
- AFL JoyceM My new 50 meg HD will cost me $319
-
- AFA Warren More capacity for Backups?
-
- LindaW19 Of course, there's always the reason that...it
- exists.
-
- AFL JoeyS And there's that, yes, Linda. :))
-
- AFL JoyceM True, Linda...how true :)
-
- LindaW19 Glen Bredon isn't planning to support them in
- ProSel. He might be persuaded to change his mind, I guess.
-
- Spottysoft One other thing I saw... the SuperDrive card does
- not support 5.25" drives. :( (not that it'll matter to most
- folks..but it should be noted..:)
-
- AFL JoeyS Hmmm... Spotty, isn't the Slot 6 Disk Port still
- available, even with the SuperDrive card installed and
- active?? (i.e. you should be able to plug a 5.25" drive
- directly into the back of the machine, even with a
- SuperDrive card in the machine).
-
- Rook2 Not programs , just disc files?
-
- JoshuaT256 I'm sure Greg will give in and complain about
- doing it, just like he did with the Non-ProDOS FST thing
-
- AFC JohnC Glen would have to rewrite major portions of his
- code Linda...that was one of the reasons that he gave
-
- Spottysoft Joey... I'm not sure.... nobody has said
- anything.... but if you put the... SD card in Slot 5 and
- set it to "Your Card"... what does it do to the "Disk
- Port" setting in slot 6??
-
- AFL JoeyS Absolutely nothing, Spotty.
-
- JoshuaT256 As long as you don't put the superdrive
- controller in slot 6, the port on the back will still use
- them
-
- AFL Marty Right Joe, but PCs can write to 1.4 meg 5.25"
- disks. It'd be nice to have a way to read them too.
-
- AFL JoeyS Although the Utilities in ProSel-16 should
- already be fairly FST independent.
-
- LindaW19 I would think it would be nice to use the 1.4 MB
- floppies for Prosel backups.
-
- JoshuaT256 It's interesting to note that DD Deluxe has
- supported 1.4 meg disks for YEARS!
-
- AFL JoeyS 1.2 meg 5.25"s, actually, Marty. Yes; I believe
- that AE 5.25" TransDrives should be directly supported,
- though, so you could at least read 360K 5.25" floppies.
-
- AFL Marty Whatever. What's .2 meg among friends.
-
- LindaW19 Duh. DD Deluxe?
-
- AFL JoeyS An old packing utility, Linda. It and most of
- its cousins went out the window when ShrinkIt came along...
-
- JoshuaT256 The FST will read MS-DOS disks "how ever you can
- get them into the computer." Floppies, syquests, etc
-
- Rook2 FST?
-
- AFL JoeyS FST = Filing System Translator, Rook... a gadget
- for GS/OS that lets it read disks from other computers,
- directly.
-
- Spottysoft So.... the SmartPort controller will still handle
- slot 6 even with slot 5 set to "your card"??
-
- AFL JoeyS It should, yes.
-
- LindaW19 I'd like to dl PC stuff with my GS. Guess I'd
- need a R/W FST for that?
-
- JoshuaT256 That's right Spottysoft.
-
- Rook2 Where do you get an FST
-
- AFC Ted It's part of the system software
-
- AFL Marty You get FSTs from Apple on GS System Disks.
-
- AFL JoeyS Right, Linda. You'll have to wait a little while
- yet...
-
- JoshuaT256 With slot 5 off, the port on the back still
- works, but 3.5s just aren't recognized.
-
- AFC JohnC Now if someone would just invent a "slot board
- extension" so that I can use all of these cards...I'd be
- happy!!!!
-
- AFL JoeyS Only from Apple, Rook. They come on the IIgs
- System Disks. Right now FST's are available for ProDOS,
- HFS (Mac disks), High Sierra CD-ROM's, and AppleShare
- (networking).
-
- Rook2 Are they on sys 6
-
- AFL Marty They are.
-
- AFC SteveB Yuppers
-
- AFL JoeyS Yes, Rook.
-
- JoshuaT256 If GS/OS ever went to the 14-slot model (minimal
- support is there), things would be much easier!
-
- AFC JohnC That's true Joshua!!!!!
-
- Rook2 But you need a FDHD, right?
-
- JoshuaT256 An FDHD is only required for high-density Mac
- disks or for MS-DOS disks.
-
- AFL Marty No... You need an FDHD to use the MS DOS FST
- (which isn't available yet) or to read/write Macintosh high
- density disks.
-
- AFL JoeyS Nope, Rook... only for the (imminent, but not yet
- available) MS-DOS FST will you need a FDHD. Read and write
- to Mac disks and CD-ROMs, Rook, as well as ProDOS disks.
-
- Rook2 Ah, what can I do with apple sys 6 FST
-
- AFL Marty Are you using System 6 now?
-
- Rook2 yes
-
- AFL Marty Then you're using an FST. (the ProDOS FST)
-
- LindaW19 Copy Mac disks in the System 6 finder, formatting
- if you need to.
-
- AFL Marty If you have the HFS FST installed you can read
- and write Macintosh 800K disks, and format them.
-
- LindaW19 Copy TT fonts off of Mac disks for use with
- Pointless...
-
- AFL JoeyS Rook: The HFS (Mac) FST isn't installed by
- default when you install System 6.0, but the Installer will
- do it for you under the "Custom Install" button.
-
- JoshuaT256 I talked with Dave about modifying some Finder
- calls a bit so I could write an intelligent copy extension
- that'd drop DAs, INITs, etc, in the right folders when you
- droppd them on the System folder.
-
- AFL JoeyS GMTA Joshua. %) Both Steve and I have such
- projects planned...
-
- JoshuaT256 We should get together then. Id also like to do
- an extension to compare rVersions and dates when copying
- and display intelligent messages like the Mac.
-
- AFC SteveB Did we ever decide which one of us was gonna stab
- at it, Joe? :)
-
- AFL JoeyS Yeah, I think I was going to take that one, and
- you were going to take the strip FX... :)
-
- JoshuaT256 The idea was also brought up of an extension to
- make icons run away from the mouse pointer... :)
-
- AFL JoeyS Hmmm, Josh... interesting idea. I didn't have
- that sort of sophistication in mind... basically just
- something to route copied files to the correct sub-folder.
- I've got several ideas of how to implement it, and about
- half the code written.
-
- LindaW19 Is there any way for the Finder to tell you
- there's not enough room on the floppy to copy the selected
- files (like the Mac).
-
- JoshuaT256 No there isn't Linda, but that's another neat
- extension idea!
-
- AFL JoeyS Drop me a note on that idea sometime, Josh, if
- ya' want...
-
- AFC SteveB (CC me too, please.)
-
- AFL JoeyS Linda, sure it's possible via Finder Extensions.
- HOWEVER, you'd probably want an override button on that
- sort of warning dialog: because ProDOS can sparse files,
- sometimes it's possible for files to fit on a volume even
- though they "shouldn't" fit.
-
- LindaW19 Glad to hear it's doable. Wish I could do it ;)
-
- SPEEDLIMIT Joey.. would it be cool for me to create a Finder
- Extention Folder in the System folder... for some reason
- when I upgraded to Systme 6 it wasn't made
-
- AFC JohnC Speed...you have to create that folder yourself
-
- Rook2 Will we be talking about program launchers
- tonite?
-
- AFL JoeyS That topic's been deferred 'til next week, Rook,
- though if you've got any particular questions we'd be glad
- to help ya' out... :)
-
- AFL Marty By the way, do any of you recall rumors about a
- disk doubler type utility?
-
- Rook2 Is there a disc doubler for the IIgs?
-
- AFL Marty There is a disk doubler promised.
-
- Rook2 Like for PC's
-
- AFL Marty The utility is called "AutoArc" and it will be
- published by Econ. Says here it will be available in mid
- September.
-
- LindaW19 So it's not just a GS+ Blatent rumor, then?
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool! :)
-
- JoshuaT256 AutoArc? Perhaps I should have spent more time
- at the Econ booth.
-
- AFL JoeyS Speaking of which... any of y'all have a little
- more information on that Universe Master thing??
-
- AFL Marty Econ did not have it available for demonstration.
-
- AFL JoeyS I've heard NOTHING about that one... %)
-
- AFC SteveB [TEX does allow you to select multiple files...in
- my case, 208 files :)]
-
- Spottysoft AutoArc.... sound likes a new car battery.... :D
-
- Rook2 Any launchers available in software library you
- recomend?
-
- LindaW19 UtilityLaunch!!!! IMHO, of course :)
-
- AFL JoeyS On the IIgs, Rook? Ummm, you might try
- UtilityLaunch (use "Search Software Libraries" to search for
- "UtilityLaunch")... that's one of the better alternatives.
-
- SPEEDLIMIT <-- tried everying and now I'm back to the Finder
- to Launch everything ;)
-
- AFL JoeyS ProSel is also an outstanding commercial choice;
- you can find out more about that in the ProSel Company
- Support area here in AUT... :)
-
- AFC JohnC UtilityLaunch, Powerlaunch to name two Rook!
-
- AFL Marty What do you want to know about Universe Master?
-
- AFL JoeyS Oh, well, anything, Marty. Unlike most of the
- topics discussed so far, I know NOTHING about "Universe
- Master". %)
-
- JoshuaT256 And neither do I, since I ran out of money before
- I could buy a copy!
-
- AFL Marty Universe Master was being touted as "competition
- for ProSel." It provides (according to the brochure)...
- file backup and restore, data compression and password
- encryption,... recovery for deleted or damaged files,
- volume analysis & optimization,... ASCII editor,
- single/batch file copy & deletion batch file, script based
- backups etc.
-
- LindaW19 Is Universe Master a desktop application?
-
- AFL Marty Yes.
-
- AFL Marty As of show time, it did not handle HFS volumes.
-
- AFL JoeyS Hmmm... fascinating. Passing by the promo stuff,
- Marty, how'd it =look=?
-
- AFL Marty It -looks- good...
-
- AFL JoeyS Cool.
-
- LindaW19 Such a modest name for it, too!
-
- AFL Marty but I had private conversations with two
- individuals whose opinions I trust... and who observed
- Universe Master attempting to fix a hard drive directory.
- Both individuals told me that it was unable to repair it. I
- think I will stick with ProSEL for volume repair, backup,
- and optimizations.
-
- AFC SteveB (Anyone know if the "strip line feeds" options
- turns 'em into CR's? :)
-
- AFL JoeyS (No, Steve, it just removes them.)
-
- SPEEDLIMIT ,-- My finder Looks like ICONs from Mars, but it
- more fun that way :)
-
- SPEEDLIMIT I need to look at some of the DL's Quick.. wanted
- to ask a few questions about some :)
-
- AFL JoeyS Shoot, Speed... :)
-
- JoshuaT256 I pity the poor programmers who have to write HFS
- disk utilities! :)
-
- SPEEDLIMIT I know I'm going to sound stupid, but I couldn't
- make heads or tails what this does... File Extender v1.00
- NDA
-
- LindaW19 I think I understand File Extender but I haven't
- found any advantage to it.
-
- LindaW19 Open the FE NDA, open a file and whatever action
- the Finder would have taken with that file, FE will do it.
- Such as... play the sound, or the song, or open
- TeachReader, etc.
-
- JoshuaT256 File Extender has uses, Linda. For instance, I
- can open Server Aliases and mount servers anywhere.
-
- AFC JohnC FE allows you to do those things that you do in
- the finder with certain extensions to do in a program that
- supports NDAs without leaving the program
-
- AFL JoeyS Correct, Linda. The basic idea is so if you have
- Finder Extensions for that sort of thing, you DON'T need
- to have redundant NDA's, etc. to handle the same tasks.
-
- SPEEDLIMIT Linda... would it add the File Extenders to the
- other programs :) that would be cool :)
-
- AFL JoeyS Yes, basically, Speed.
-
- LindaW19 But since I use UtilityLaunch so much, I do have
- those NDAs already. I figure FE has its uses and the server
- mounting looks like a good one.
-
- AFL Marty I saw a very interesting application called
- Animasia 3D.
-
- GerryR5 I heard about that Marty..tell me about it? :)
-
- AFL JoeyS That was mentioned in passing earlier, Marty...
- want to give us some more details?? :)
-
- AFL Marty Creates 3D animations, edits in full perspective
- mode... creates 3D shapes using a variety of tools.
-
- AFL Marty I particularly liked the way it generates solids
- by rotating 2D shapes about an axis you define.
-
- AFL Marty Imports and exports in DXF format.
-
- AFL Marty The program seemed very close to completion. I
- think AGR may be having the author in for a chat one of
- these days.
-
- JoshuaT256 Animasia 3-D will be great for schools since it
- can read AutoCAD DXF files.
-
- AFL JoeyS Sounds good, Marty! Yeah, it sounds VERY nice...
- the AutoCAD import/export support alone is worth ton
-
- JoshuaT256 For all of you programmers, Resource Central now
- has ALL the System 6.0 docs, including the System 6.0
- Programmers Reference (from ByteWorks) and printed versions
- of the May 1992 Tech/FileType Notes
-
- --
- I should really be _doing_ something now...
-