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- From: s047@SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU (Jeremy Lee)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
- Subject: Re: New PC's, what's happening acorn?
- Message-ID: <9208161049.AA10301@sand.sics.bu.oz.au>
- Date: 17 Aug 92 01:49:34 GMT
- Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
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- In article <9208110035.AA06560@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> you write:
- >[In message "new PC's, what's happening acorn?", Piers Haken writes:]
- >>It looks like the Arc/PC gap just got bigger:
- >>
- >>COMPAQ DESKPRO 66M
- >> Model 510 Windows edition: 486DX2/66MHz, 8MB ram, 510Mb HD, $5,200
- >>
- >>I'm sorry guys, but however sentimental you are - this is fast, Windows
- >>is getting nicer and you're falling behind a bit. I hope you replace
- >>the A5000 with something really impressive, or people just aren't going
- >>to be interested anymore.
-
- Windows is getting NICER??!?! *cough splutter choke*!! There is a
- fundamental flaw in the semantics of that sentence. First, windows was
- never nice, so to imply that it is getting "nicer" is false. I have seen
- and used 3.1, and from all outward appearances, the greatest single
- major change is that they are using that horrible new logo everywhere.
-
- Also, adhering to that wonderfull american ideology that we all know and
- love, they have thrown even more into Windows proper than was ever
- necessary. They now have, wait for it, a screensaver built into the
- desktop controls. Why?!?! It's useless. It provides three screensaver
- options, each of which are very dull. It also ignores that fact that
- After Dark has just been released for Windows, and there has been a
- reasonable PD screensaver called "ScreenPeace" available for one and a
- half years!! There are other examples, but hardwiring a weak, useless
- screensaver into what is basically the operating system just seems
- insanely stupid.
-
- Plus, a LOT of old software is very unstable or won't work at all under
- the new Windows. Not even Microsoft software. Great way to get everyone
- to spend lots more money on upgrades eh?
-
- >You mean that the Arch/PC gap just got smaller. And it is still a pretty
- >wide one. ;-)
-
- Seconded. Overall of course. We still don't have 24 bit screens, but
- PC's still don't have anything like STANDARD 8 channel stereo sound,
- STANDARD mouse, STANDARD program environment, (Choose: DOS, or OS/2 or
- Windows or NT or...) which means that even half the programs written
- under one OS can't be run under another on the SAME HARDWARE PLATFORM
- and who has room to install 4 OS's? DOS is the only common denominator.
- Great eh? And don't forget how old DOS is. It's even older than ADFS!
- (Oh Acorn, when are you going to replace ADFS with something that can
- handle >10 char names!)
-
- >If you can tolerate Windows 3.1 (if you can even get it running) -- good
- >luck to you. You certainly need a machine this over-burdened to be able
- >to run it at a decent speed. Will the Americans never learn about
- >design?
-
- No. Not while their companies are being run by the marketers.
-
- Windows will install easily if you have the STANDARD setup. IE >286 with
- at least 1mb, VGA, and a microsoft mouse. If you don't have all of
- these, then forget it. I've installed windows on a machine that had 640k
- and hercules. It took Days to get the system working. Another guy had a
- non-standard mouse. He had to write back to the suppliers to get extra
- software. Oh, yes, and of course you need a big hard drive.
-
- It takes 8Mb to install windows. It takes another 5Mb to install WfW, or
- Excel. It takes 3Mb to install Dos5. I have a friend with a 40Mb drive.
- He's a pretty average user, a commerce student who only barely knows his
- way around Windows, let alone DOS. His HD is full, and he can't work out
- where all the space has gone. Also, over the past few months, his
- Windows has been getting slower, and slower, and s l o w e r... And he
- can't work out why. I've seen it, and I'm not sure that even disk
- fragmentation can cause the boot up time to jump from 25 seconds to 2
- minutes!! He's re-installed windows twice to no avail. Tell him he has
- to re-format his HD every few months to keep his performence up and see
- how he likes it!
-
- >-Malcolm lithgow@usl.com These are my opinions.
-
- And these are mine.
-
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