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- From: tgl+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Lane)
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- Subject: Re: comp.sources.reviewed and a blast from the past
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- Date: 18 Aug 92 00:46:55 GMT
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- cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes:
- > Also note that on 3/31 (the posting date) the code was already
- > out of date by approx 2 months.
- >
- > >submitters are serious about their software, we are usually able to
- > >complete a couple of rounds of reviews and get things posted within a
- > >few months.
- >
- > I think that is way too much time and too many reviews.
-
- Speed is certainly an issue. When you are dealing with software that may be
- radically improved in the course of a few months, it makes no sense at all
- to waste Usenet bandwidth on posting anything but the latest version.
- Perhaps c.s.r needs to fine-tune their reviewing process so that an updated
- version of a previously-reviewed program can be fed through very quickly.
- (Maybe just verify functionality rather than do a full review.) That way
- you could make an initial submission, work on improving the package with
- other beta-testers, revise the package per the reviews when you get them,
- and resubmit with an expectation of seeing it posted almost immediately.
- If c.s.r's model is that you do nothing while waiting for their review,
- then they definitely have a problem.
-
- > I think the
- > community would be much better served by a much faster and much less
- > nit-picky mechanism that precluded a reviewer from being able to say
- > things like, "I don't like the way he did that".
-
- Well, I think that even very nit-picky comments may be valuable; I would
- certainly want to hear every suggestion that the reviewers might have
- (assuming they are knowledgeable people :-). So I don't want the reviewers
- to feel that they can't say "I don't like the way he did that".
-
- On the other hand, if the process allows a reviewer to *prevent a package
- from being posted* on the basis of minor quibbles, that is a big problem.
- There needs to be an escape that lets an author say "maybe that is a good
- idea, but I'm not going to do it". c.s.r needs to have a policy that
- determines how important a given complaint is, and whether it warrants
- rejecting the submission if the author won't fix it.
-
- If the hurdle is too high, I can well imagine authors submitting to c.s.r,
- reading the reviews, taking the suggestions they like, and proceeding to
- post to c.s.m or c.s.u rather than argue about the suggestions they don't
- like. Perhaps some of those missing resubmissions went to other newsgroups??
-
- Of course, the whole point of c.s.r is to post only software that meets a
- standard of quality defined by the reviewers. I'm just wondering if the
- standard is currently set a little too high, or if there is maybe not enough
- flexibility in the process to accommodate reviewers' opinions versus
- authors' opinions.
-
- regards, tom lane
-