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- Subject: Re: What is Software Engineering
- Message-ID: <1992Aug12.153419.11683@babbage.ece.uc.edu>
- From: dain@holmes.ece.uc.edu (Dain Samples)
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:34:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug12.084215.8691@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo) writes:
- |> In article <1992Aug11.155431.4263@mole-end.matawan.nj.us>, mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us writes:
- |> > In article <1992Aug9.181448.22302@hubcap.clemson.edu>, ofut@hubcap.clemson.edu (A. Jeff Offutt) writes:
- |> >> >> Do you believe software can be engineered?
- |> [...interesting stuff....]
- |> >> Can we claim to be SOFTWARE ENGINEERS?
- |> >> Not until we put SAFETY and QUALITY first!
- |> >
- |> > We have to show that there is enough science to our work, and then
- |> > show that we can take the kind of project responsibility that a PE
- |> > takes. I'd really like to see the PE societies take an interest here.
- |>
- |> Don't worry about the PE societies. The lawyers will find you, totally
- |> independent of the amount of science and responsibility in our work. (No
- |> smiley.)
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- Indeed not. The State of Ohio passed a law last month the forbids
- anyone from using the term `engineer' in their title or description
- unless:
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- (1) They are licensed by a state recognized licensing board.
- (2) They graduated from an ABET accredited department of
- engineering.
-
- Note that ABET is the accreditation organization for *engineering*
- departments; CSAB (I think is the acronym) is the accrediation
- organization for Computer Science departments. For those of you
- planning to live in the state of Ohio and getting your degree from a
- Computer Science department, you will have legal problems if you call
- yourself a `software engineer' and do not become a licensed engineer.
-
- --
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- A. Dain Samples, Dain.Samples@uc.edu, wk:(513)556-4783, hm:(513)771-5492
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