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- From: dennisp@Newbridge.COM (Dennis Peters)
- Subject: Re: What is Software Engineering
- Message-ID: <1992Aug12.145958.20896@Newbridge.COM>
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- References: <1992Aug11.230714.15323@riacs.edu>
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:59:58 GMT
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- In article 15323@riacs.edu, lehman@george.arc.nasa.gov (John Lehman -- GDP) writes:
- > . . .
- > Maybe instead of saying "I am a software engineer"
- > one could say "I design computer programs" and
- > then everyone (inside the field and also in the
- > world at large) would know what s/he was talking
- > about. (Also, would be more easily able to verify
- > whether the statement is true.)
- >
-
- By a similar logic should we ask that a Civil Engineer, when asked what s/he
- does for a living reply: "I design roads/bridges/sewer systems"? I think that
- the term 'Software Engineer' is no more improper than 'Civil Engineer'.
-
- [ order altered to support my point ]
- > . . .
- >
- > "Software Staff Person" or "Software Staff"
- >
- > which would cover an occupation including
- > writing purchase requests for software license
- > renewals, occasional debugging or consulting,
- > technical writing, occasional (or rare)
- > programming (in C, Fortran, sed, shell, make,
- > etc.), going to administrative meetings,
- > occasionally installing, reviewing, or
- > testing software; occasionally engineering
- > part of a software system; or, doing computer
- > system administration tasks; etc. The term
- > "programmer" doesn't really fit such an
- > occupation, particularly as the person
- > may not have much time to program or may
- > not receive any programming assignments.
- >
- >
- > As for what "software engineering" is:
- >
- > "Software Engineering" could mean:
- >
- > writing requirements and supervising programmers,
- > testers, and procurement; (this person is partly
- > a "supervisor" of people, and/or partly a "project
- > manager" using project management skills which,
- > in the main, aren't particular to software);
- >
-
- Ask any practicing engineer (that is a _real_ engineer: Civil, Mechanical, Electrical
- etc. ) what percentage of his/her time s/he spends actually designing whatever it is
- that they design. I think that you'll find that typically it amounts to far less
- than 50%. So the expresion 'I design X' is not a complete description of the job.
- The job of engineering involves a lot of administration, evaluation, documentation
- etc.
-
- As for the programming part: It is acceptable (_real_) engineering practice to
- construct, or have constructed, a prototype of whatever it is that the engineer is
- designing. The reason that (in SE) the designer typically actually builds the
- prototype is that we have not yet found a concise method to communicate our design
- to programmers (where _real_ engineers can draw plans and pass them out to 'the
- shop' for construction).
-
- Unfortunately, in the case of software the step from prototype to
- production is trivial so we don't _have_ to go back and update our design and we
- often just pass off our re-worked prototype as _the_ product.
-
- > . . .
- >
- >
- > After all the above, I must now admit, in the general
- > interest of truth, that I myself could barely be called
- > either a designer of computer programs or (as the term
- > is generally used at "A" above) a "software engineer",
- > as I only do those things part of the time, very seldom
- > have managed multi-person projects, and am less experienced
- > than several others who write to this newsgroup.
-
- As I've said, engineering, as a profession, involves a great deal more than
- designing. Also, there is no requirement to be the _most_ experienced in a field
- to call yourself an engineer.
-
- > . . .
- >
- > lehman@ames.arc.nasa.gov
- ---
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