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- From: Bert.Sainz@f55.n135.z1.fidonet.org (Bert Sainz)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: AMD386 vs. Intel386 & external cache problems
- Message-ID: <714047163.F00152@remote.halcyon.com>
- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:50:18 -0800
- Sender: Gatekeeper@remote.halcyon.com
- Lines: 263
-
- > From: herr@hp11.iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr)
- >
- > Hello Linuxers,
- >
- > two weeks ago I posted to this newsgroup, that I had problems with
- my
- > new 386
- > motherboard (AMD386, 40MHz, ETEQ Cougar chipset, 64KB cache, 8MB
- > memory).
- > Running Linux on it, from time to time some processes or even
- > the kernel died with a signal SIGSEGV, which was caused by a
- `general
- > protection
- > error'. After turning off the onboard external cache everything
- > workedfine.
- >
- > To localize the error and make it reproducible I tested the machine
- > with the following two endless loops under Linux 0.96cp2:
- >
-
- Your message rang a bell. In the last few days a message was posted in
- the
- C_ECHO conference of FidoNet that might shed some light on your
- problems. I
- can't help beyond posting this. Please note the data file is missing and
-
- would have to be downloaded from the PKWare bbs.
-
- Please note the similarity between your statement that when cache is
- turned
- off the problems disappear and a similar statement in MC's message.
-
- >--- cut here
-
- By: Martin Connelly
- To: All
- Re: External Cache Fault 1/
- St:
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- @MSGID: 1:340/15.0 2a8115a8
- During the development of PKZIP v. 2.0 for MS-DOS, PKWARE has
- discovered hardware faults in newer 80386 & 80486 computers.
- These faults can cause anomalies in the operation of PKWARE
- software as well as other software.
- PKWARE has been endeavoring to locate an anomaly that has been
- observed by a number of customers and associated vendors. The intial
- symptoms of the problem were:
- - Particular files extracting with errors on one machine, but not
- on another.
- - Installs of some products failing.
- These problems have been observed primarily on newer, fast (33Mhz
- or faster) 80386 and 80486 machines. Investigation of the problem
- revealed no difference in software or hardware between machines
- that
- failed and machines which did not. The files which fail do not
- fail
- every time. To further test where the problem was occuring, a very
- simple program which would load a test file into a RAM buffer and
- then copy it to a second RAM buffer was created. The program then
- compares the two buffers one byte at a time and reports any
- discrepancies. Discrepancies with even the simple copy were noted.
- If the EXTERNAL CACHE is turned off through the BIOS configuration,
- the problem does not occur. This is a hardware flaw. Here are the
- test programs. Pkware supplies test data BBS number 1-414-354-8670
- and is looking for bug reports on external caches that cause this.
-
- two test programs
-
- // test1.c
- #include "stdlib.h"
- #include "fcntl.h"
- #include "memory.h"
- #include "stdio.h"
- #include "io.h"
- #include "func.h"
-
- boolean is386;
-
- #define SIZE 16384U
- unsigned char buff1[SIZE];
- unsigned char buff2[SIZE];
-
- // Simply compare the two buffers byte by byte,
- // and report any mismatches. The buffers should be identical,
- // but due to faulty external caches, the data can become corrupted.
-
- void compare(char *p1,char *p2,unsigned size,unsigned long pos)
- {
- char *save=p1;
-
- while (size--)
- { if (*p1 != *p2)
- { printf(
- "Mismatch at: %5u Pos: %7lu adr1: %4x adr2: %4x buff1=%3u
- buff2=%3u\n",
- p1-save,pos+(unsigned)p1-(unsigned)save,p1,p2,*p1,*p2);
- }
- p1++;
- p2++;
- }
- }
-
- void do_file(int fh,unsigned size)
- {
- unsigned count;
- unsigned long pos;
- char *ptr;
- unsigned i;
-
- _lseek(fh,pos=0L,SEEK_SET);
-
- printf("Buffer: %5u\n",size);
-
- while (count=_read(fh,buff1,size)) // standard read routine
- { for (i=0;i<32;i++)
- memcpy(buff2,buff1,count); // standard memcpy routine
-
- compare(buff1,buff2,count,pos);
- pos += count;
- }
- }
-
- unsigned main(unsigned argc,char *argv[])
- {
- int fh;
- unsigned i;
-
- if ((fh=_open(argv[1],O_RDONLY|O_BINARY)) == -1)
- { printf("Can't open %s\n",argv[1]);
- return 1;
- }
-
- for (i=64; i<=SIZE; i<<=1)
- do_file(fh,i);
-
- return 0;
- }
-
- //test2.c
-
- #include "stdlib.h"
- #include "fcntl.h"
- #include "memory.h"
- #include "stdio.h"
- #include "io.h"
- #include "func.h"
- #include "dos.h"
- #include "share.h"
-
- #define SIZE 16384U
- unsigned char buff1[SIZE];
- unsigned char buff2[SIZE];
-
- unsigned long crc_tab[] = {
- 0x00000000,0x77073096,0xEE0E612C,0x990951BA,0x076DC419,0x706AF48F,
- 0xE963A535,0x9E6495A3,0x0EDB8832,0x79DCB8A4,0xE0D5E91E,0x97D2D988,
- 0x09B64C2B,0x7EB17CBD,0xE7B82D07,0x90BF1D91,0x1DB71064,0x6AB020F2,
- 0xF3B97148,0x84BE41DE,0x1ADAD47D,0x6DDDE4EB,0xF4D4B551,0x83D385C7,
- 0x136C9856,0x646BA8C0,0xFD62F97A,0x8A65C9EC,0x14015C4F,0x63066CD9,
- 0xFA0F3D63,0x8D080DF5,0x3B6E20C8,0x4C69105E,0xD56041E4,0xA2677172,
- 0x3C03E4D1,0x4B04D447,0xD20D85FD,0xA50AB56B,0x35B5A8FA,0x42B2986C,
- 0xDBBBC9D6,0xACBCF940,0x32D86CE3,0x45DF5C75,0xDCD60DCF,0xABD13D59,
- 0x26D930AC,0x51DE003A,0xC8D75180,0xBFD06116,0x21B4F4B5,0x56B3C423,
- 0xCFBA9599,0xB8BDA50F,0x2802B89E,0x5F058808,0xC60CD9B2,0xB10BE924,
- 0x2F6F7C87,0x58684C11,0xC1611DAB,0xB6662D3D,0x76DC4190,0x01DB7106,
- 0x98D220BC,0xEFD5102A,0x71B18589,0x06B6B51F,0x9FBFE4A5,0xE8B8D433,
- 0x7807C9A2,0x0F00F934,0x9609A88E,0xE10E9818,0x7F6A0DBB,0x086D3D2D,
- 0x91646C97,0xE6635C01,0x6B6B51F4,0x1C6C6162,0x856530D8,0xF262004E,
- 0x6C0695ED,0x1B01A57B,0x8208F4C1,0xF50FC457,0x65B0D9C6,0x12B7E950,
- 0x8BBEB8EA,0xFCB9887C,0x62DD1DDF,0x15DA2D49,0x8CD37CF3,0xFBD44C65,
- 0x4DB26158,0x3AB551CE,0xA3BC0074,0xD4BB30E2,0x4ADFA541,0x3DD895D7,
- 0xA4D1C46D,0xD3D6F4FB,0x4369E96A,0x346ED9FC,0xAD678846,0xDA60B8D0,
- 0x44042D73,0x33031DE5,0xAA0A4C5F,0xDD0D7CC9,0x5005713C,0x270241AA,
- 0xBE0B1010,0xC90C2086,0x5768B525,0x206F85B3,0xB966D409,0xCE61E49F,
- 0x5EDEF90E,0x29D9C998,0xB0D09822,0xC7D7A8B4,0x59B33D17,0x2EB40D81,
- 0xB7BD5C3B,0xC0BA6CAD,0xEDB88320,0x9ABFB3B6,0x03B6E20C,0x74B1D29A,
- 0xEAD54739,0x9DD277AF,0x04DB2615,0x73DC1683,0xE3630B12,0x94643B84,
- 0x0D6D6A3E,0x7A6A5AA8,0xE40ECF0B,0x9309FF9D,0x0A00AE27,0x7D079EB1,
- 0xF00F9344,0x8708A3D2,0x1E01F268,0x6906C2FE,0xF762575D,0x806567CB,
- 0x196C3671,0x6E6B06E7,0xFED41B76,0x89D32BE0,0x10DA7A5A,0x67DD4ACC,
- 0xF9B9DF6F,0x8EBEEFF9,0x17B7BE43,0x60B08ED5,0xD6D6A3E8,0xA1D1937E,
- 0x38D8C2C4,0x4FDFF252,0xD1BB67F1,0xA6BC5767,0x3FB506DD,0x48B2364B,
- 0xD80D2BDA,0xAF0A1B4C,0x36034AF6,0x41047A60,0xDF60EFC3,0xA867DF55,
- 0x316E8EEF,0x4669BE79,0xCB61B38C,0xBC66831A,0x256FD2A0,0x5268E236,
- 0xCC0C7795,0xBB0B4703,0x220216B9,0x5505262F,0xC5BA3BBE,0xB2BD0B28,
- 0x2BB45A92,0x5CB36A04,0xC2D7FFA7,0xB5D0CF31,0x2CD99E8B,0x5BDEAE1D,
- 0x9B64C2B0,0xEC63F226,0x756AA39C,0x026D930A,0x9C0906A9,0xEB0E363F,
- 0x72076785,0x05005713,0x95BF4A82,0xE2B87A14,0x7BB12BAE,0x0CB61B38,
- 0x92D28E9B,0xE5D5BE0D,0x7CDCEFB7,0x0BDBDF21,0x86D3D2D4,0xF1D4E242,
- 0x68DDB3F8,0x1FDA836E,0x81BE16CD,0xF6B9265B,0x6FB077E1,0x18B74777,
- 0x88085AE6,0xFF0F6A70,0x66063BCA,0x11010B5C,0x8F659EFF,0xF862AE69,
- 0x616BFFD3,0x166CCF45,0xA00AE278,0xD70DD2EE,0x4E048354,0x3903B3C2,
- 0xA7672661,0xD06016F7,0x4969474D,0x3E6E77DB,0xAED16A4A,0xD9D65ADC,
- 0x40DF0B66,0x37D83BF0,0xA9BCAE53,0xDEBB9EC5,0x47B2CF7F,0x30B5FFE9,
- 0xBDBDF21C,0xCABAC28A,0x53B39330,0x24B4A3A6,0xBAD03605,0xCDD70693,
- 0x54DE5729,0x23D967BF,0xB3667A2E,0xC4614AB8,0x5D681B02,0x2A6F2B94,
- 0xB40BBE37,0xC30C8EA1,0x5A05DF1B,0x2D02EF8D
- };
-
- unsigned long crc32(unsigned long crc,unsigned char *s,unsigned n)
- {
- while (n--)
- { crc = (crc>>8) ^ crc_tab[(s[0] ^ crc) & 0xff];
- s++;
- }
- return crc;
- }
- unsigned do_file(int fh,unsigned size)
- {
- unsigned count;
- unsigned long crc1,crc2;
- unsigned i;
- _lseek(fh,0L,SEEK_SET);
-
- count=_read(fh,buff1,size);
-
- crc1=crc2=0xffffffffL;
-
- while (count)
- { for (i=0;i<16;i++)
- memcpy(buff2,buff1,count); // standard memcpy
-
- crc1=crc32(crc1,buff1,count);
- crc2=crc32(crc2,buff2,count);
-
- count=_read(fh,buff1,size);
- }
-
- // CRC values should be the same, for all buffer sizes!
-
- printf("%5u byte buffer. CRC1 = %8lx CRC2 = %8lx\n",
- size,~crc1,~crc2);
- }
-
- unsigned main(unsigned argc,char *argv[])
- {
- int fh;
- unsigned i;
- unsigned err=0;
-
- if ((_dos_open(argv[1],O_RDONLY|SH_DENYNO,&fh)))
- { printf("Can't open %s\n",argv[1]);
- return 1;
- }
- for (i=64; i<=16384; i<<=1) do_file(fh,i);
- }
-
- * Origin: Other Worlds BBS (604) 478-5529 (1:340/15)
-
- >---- cut here
-
- I hope this might shed some light on your problem. If the problem is
- traced
- to a hardware bug, it might help others trying to run LINUX and running
-
- into intermittent problems.
-
- The origin address (1:340/15) is a FidoNet address.
-
- Bert
-
- * Origin: Tech-80, Miami, FL (1:135/55)
-
-