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- From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
- Subject: Re: SLS: now available (for testers)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug16.023634.21330@sol.UVic.CA>
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- Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
- References: <1992Aug15.215216.18073@sol.UVic.CA> <1992Aug15.224805.26718@crd.ge.com>
- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 02:36:34 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug15.224805.26718@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug15.215216.18073@sol.UVic.CA>, pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
- >
- >| BTW: If there are any comments about other software that should
- >| be added, please let me know. I insist upon keeping it to 15 disks
- >| for now, but there is still some room left (not much though).
- >| But, if you just want to bitch about how it should contain
- >| the source tree, or should have all the alpha kernels and
- >| tcpip alpha, etc, please consider using 386BSD. The goal of SLS
- >| is to maintain a balance between small and featureful, with
- >| an emphasis on the former.
- >
- >I'm sorry you consider it bitching, but I /do/ think that the source
- >tree should be included, because the GPL requires that it be made
- >available. That's why I'm not distributing disks myself.
-
- According to this, everyone who posts a binary, without the full source,
- is guilty. That includes GCC and X11.
-
- >
- >I would suggest that you break this into sections, like SCO (only not at
- >$1500/section) of install, base utils, extended utils, X, games, gcc,
- >and source.
-
- Be my guest.
-
- >
- >I was not upset when you stated your prices, although lots of others
- >seemed to be. You are entitled by the GPL to charge whatever the market
- >will bear. I /am/ upset that you seem to be violating the GPL in your
- >distribution, and I hope others will be, too. You are welcome to
- >consider this a "bitch about how it should contain the source tree"
- >should you desire. I consider it "let's all play by the rules."
- >
-
- Perhaps my use of the word "bitch" was inappropriate. I sometimes
- get a little fatigued at how often people confuse criticism with
- contributing.
-
- Please go back and (re)read my first SLS posting. In it I clearly
- state that Softlanding will make C source available as per GPL, but that
- they discouraged it. However, I expect few to want it because it would
- be horrendously large.
-
- You also seem to have erroneously assumed that I have such a source
- tree in my possession. If so, it is incorrect. SLS is a composite
- of binaries that were posted (MCC, MJ, X11, and many miscellaneous) plus a
- a pile I compiled. As I told Ted, Softlanding will not, I repeat NOT
- charge for any software/scripts/configurations it develops. It charges
- only for copy service. If you find the stated price unacceptable,
- then please excercise your free market right to go elsewhere.
-
- To be clear, I have not, and will not, volunteer to set up a
- centrally administered source tree for Linux. Although I am not denying
- that there may be some merit to it, I just don't have the time (do you?).
- Instead, I did something that wasn't all that difficult (collect binaries,
- integrate and write a few scripts), but that can potentially benefit
- a large # of people by saving them the hassle of building their own system.
- Plus hopefully, traffic on the newsgroup due to misconfigured systems, may
- be reduced.
-
- But all of this I said in my first SLS post. Please go back and read it,
- particularly the goals section.
-
- If you want the source tree so bad, I suggest you either go to 386BSD or
- you do it yourself. I am a little taken aback, however, at your trying
- to use the GPL to bully me into doing it. I haven't the time. But
- I weighed what I could do, that would, in my opinion, benefit the
- Linux community maximally. I didn't really expect everyone would agree
- with that.
-
- BTW: The Softlanding Distribution has one primary goal. To remedy the
- fact that Linux is not visible outside of electronic networks. The hope
- is to generate enough revenue to support advertising. If it makes money
- beyond that, then the owner of Softlanding (no, it is not me), will be
- pleased. But I doubt personally that there will be enough demand to do that.
-
-
- >--
- >bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
- > I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
-
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