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- From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
- Subject: Re: Comparison BTW Franz/Lucid
- Message-ID: <CHYDE.92Aug19121952@pecos.ads.com>
- Date: 19 Aug 92 17:19:52 GMT
- References: <1992Aug16.100525.24502@mercury.unt.edu>
- <YORK.92Aug17113150@oakland-hills.lucid.com>
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- Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
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- In-Reply-To: york@oakland-hills.lucid.com's message of 17 Aug 92 18:31:50 GMT
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-
- I'm a 'happy' user of Franz Inc's Allegro CL and CLIM. I use it with
- Epoch, because you get better X11 integration, and far more mouse
- control & behavior.
-
- I've noticed that binaries can be 4x larger than source files. the
- speed on a Sparc 2 is quite respectable. lightweight threaded
- multiprocessing works pretty well, but Lisp can get locked into
- something that you can't break out of (mapcar #'some-fn
- 'circular-list) [i've gotten caught with this twice], and the only
- solution is to shut down lisp completely, via some other window. (in
- epoch, I just kill the buffer and it's gone)
-
- I haven't figured out how to get it to read special keys (f1-12,
- l11-10, r1-15, help) on the keyboard. i run under Motif, but it's not
- Motif's fault (i think).
-
- Allegro CL has some good extensions, good CLOS support, conditions,
- andthat sort of thing. it appears to be a very complete implmentation
- of CLtL2, which I what I want. I like CLIM better than XCW, but not as
- well as the LispM window system.
-
- It ain't a Lisp Machine, however. I've not spent any time with Lucid
- CL, so I can't make a comparison.
-
- we are getting another license, and doing more with it, so obviously
- it's meeting our needs...
-
- -- clint
- --
-
- Clint Hyde "Give me a LispM or give me death!" -- anonymous
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