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- From: fnia@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet Information Account)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
- Subject: [comp.lang.forth 1/2] Forth On-line Resource/Technical Help (v1.6, 15-Mar-92)
- Message-ID: <3988.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>
- Date: 16 Aug 92 12:29:45 GMT
- Organization: EIEI-U
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- F O R T H O N - L I N E R E S O U R C E / T E C H N I C A L H E L P
-
- Last updated on 15 March 1992.
-
- If you have corrections, clarifications, additions, comments or
- updates, please send them to the address at the end of this note.
-
- This is the first of two regularly posted articles to comp.lang.forth.
- Both of these messages are posted on or about the 1st and the 15th of
- each month. The other article's subject line is:
-
- [comp.lang.forth 2/2] Frequently Asked Question Answers
-
- That article covers more specific questions about where to get
- particular versions of Forth, etc. You should probably read this
- article completely before reading that one.
-
-
- New with version 1.4 of this message are change bars '|' in the left
- hand margin. The change bars indicate text which has changed since
- the last version.
-
-
- Hello,
-
- This post is to introduce you to the resources available to
- those who read comp.lang.forth and can also send UseNet/Internet mail
- or do anonynmous FTP.
-
- This message answers the questions:
-
- What is ForthNet?
- Where do I find Forth Libraries on-line?
-
-
-
-
- FORTHNET
- --------
-
- ForthNet is a virtual Forth network that links designated message
- bases of several Bulletin Boards and Information Services in an
- attempt to provide greater distribution of Forth related information.
-
- ForthNet is provided through the courtesy of the SysOps of its
- various links who shunt appropriate messages in a manual or
- semi-manual manner. The current branches of ForthNet include:
- UseNet's comp.lang.forth, BitNet's FIGI-L, the BBoard systems RCFB,
- ACFB, LMI BBS, Interface BBS, Grapevine, and FIG's RoundTable on GEnie.
- (Info on modem-accessible systems is included below).
-
- The various branches of ForthNet do not have the same rules of
- appropriate postings or ettiquette. Many BBoard posts are very chatty
- and contain some personal information, and some also contain blatant
- commercial advertising. Most comp.lang.forth posts are not like that.
- ForthNet messages that are ported into comp.lang.forth from the rest
- of the ForthNet all originate on GEnie, which is a kind of defacto
- ForthNet message hub. All such messages are ported into
- comp.lang.forth with a from line of the form:
-
- From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us ...
-
- Most messages ported to comp.lang.forth also contain some trailer
- information as to where they actually originated, if it was not on
- GEnie.
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- Because ForthNet messages are routed beyound the
- system from which they originate, we, the manual
- and semi-manual linkers of ForthNet, ask that you
- try to keep your the lines in your message to under
- 77 characters in length. You do not have to do that.
- If you use long lines, your message will end up
- formatted differently than you intended on the various
- branches of ForthNet.
-
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- There is NO E-MAIL link between the various
- branches of ForthNet. If you need to get a
- message through to someone on another branch,
- please either make your message general enough
- to be of interest to the whole net, or contact
- said person by phone, USMail, or some other
- means. Thoughtful message authors place *a few*
- lines at the end of their messages describing
- how to contact them (electronicly or otherwise).
-
-
- Phone information for the dial-in services mentioned above:
-
- RCFB (Real-Time Control Forth Board) 303-278-0364
- SysOp: Jack Woehr
- Location: Golden, Colorado -USA-
-
- ACFB (Australia Connection Forth Board) 03-809-1787 in Australia
- 61-3-809-1787 International
- SysOp: Lance Collins
- Location: Melbourne, Victoria -AUSTRALIA-
-
- LMI BBS (Laboratory Microsystems, Inc.) 213-306-3530
- SysOp: Ray Duncan
- Location: Marina del Ray, California -USA-
-
- Interface BBS 707-544-9661
- Sysop: b0b (Bob Lee)
- Location: Santa Rosa, California -USA-
-
- Grapevine (Grapevine RIME hub) 501-753-8121 to register
- 501-753-6859 thereafter
- SysOp: Jim Wenzel
- Location: Little Rock, Arkansas -USA-
-
- GEnie 800-638-9636 for information
- (General Electric Network for Information Service)
- SysOps: Dennis Ruffer(D.RUFFER)
- Leonard Morgenstern(NMORGENSTER)
- Gary Smith(GARY-S)
- Elliott Chapin(ELLIOTT.C)
- Location: Forth RoundTable - type M710 or FORTH
-
-
-
-
-
- FORTH LIBRARIES
- ---------------
-
- There are several repositories of Forth programs, sources,
- executables, and so on. These various repositories are NOT indentical
- copies of the same things. Material is available on an AS-IS basis
- due to the charity of the people involved in maintaining the
- libraries. There are several ways to access Forth Libraries:
-
-
- FTP
- ---
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- You can only use FTP if you are on an Internet
- site which supports FTP (some sites may restrict
- certain classes of users). If you have any
- questions about this, contact your system
- administrator for information. Your system
- administrator should always be your first line
- of resort if you have any difficulties or
- questions about using FTP.
-
- You can also read comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d where you can
- find a regulary posted article with the subject:
- Beginner's Guide to FTP
-
-
- For MSDOS related files there are several sites from which
- you can anonymously FTP Forth related materials, two of which are:
- WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Simtel20 for short)
- WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU (Wuarchive for short)
- Wuarchive maintains a "mirror" of the material available on Simtel20.
- Simtel20 has a limited amount of material, most of it binaries for
- MSDOS computers. The Forth files on Simtel20 are in directory
- 'PD1:<MSDOS.FORTH>'. The Forth files on Wuarchive are in directory
- '/mirror/msdos/forth'. For detailed information on how use FTP and
- the Simtel20 archive see the text files in: (it is too much to include here)
- PD1:<MSDOS.STARTER>SIMTEL20.INF or
- /mirrors/starter/simtel20.inf
-
- You can find other sites using the "archie" archive finder. Details
- on how to use archie are included in the FAQ posting that accompanies
- this one.
-
-
-
- EMAIL access to FTP sites
- -------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 09:13:41 CST
- From: pitt!sifvs9.SINet.SLB.COM!fisher
- Message-Id: <9104021513.AA10971@SLCS.SLB.COM>
- Subject: Re: F.O.R/T.H. Letter
-
- Firstly, F.O.R/T.H. mentions BITNET/EARN servers for SIMTEL20 in
- passing. These may easily be accessed via EMail if you can
- provide an EMail path to and from the Internet.
-
- Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to either :-
-
- listserv@rpiecs.bitnet
- or listserv@ndsuvm1.bitnet
-
- Secondly, all FTP sites are accessable from Internet using a
- program at Princeton Uni. called BITFTP. This allows you to send
- whatis basically an FTP batch job to BITFTP@PUCC.BITNET, which
- will execute the job and mail any files back to you in UUENCODED
- format.
-
- Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to :-
-
- bitftp@pucc.bitnet
-
-
- Craig Fisher |**** fisher@sifvx6.sinet.slb.com ****
- Schlumberger Technologies |
- Instruments Division | Disclamer: These views are mine,
- Farnborough, Hants. UK | my boss thinks I'm working. ;-)
-
-
-
- MODEM
- -----
-
- For those desiring (or stuck with?) to use modems, the dial-in
- systems listed above also have Forth libraries.
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- GEnie is the official repository of the
- Forth Interest Group's on-line library.
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via
- Internet FTP or through one of the BITNET/EARN
- file servers, most SIMTEL20 MSDOS files,
- including the PC-Blue collection, are available
- for downloading on the Detroit Download Central
- network at 313-885-3956. DDC has multiple lines
- which support 300/1200/2400/9600/14400 bps
- (HST/V.32/V.42/V.42bis/MNP5). This is a
- subscription system with an average hourly cost
- of 17 cents. It is also accessable on Telenet
- via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink
- outdial. New files uploaded to SIMTEL20 are
- usually available on DDC within 24 hours.
-
- Information provided by:
- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS,
- MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74]
- Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or
- w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
- Uucp: uunet!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz
- BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
-
-
-
-
- EMAIL
- -----
-
- For those with email only access there is not much. For now,
- posts from ForthNet ported into comp.lang.forth sometimes advertise
- files being available on GEnie. Those messages also contain
- information on how to get UUencoded EMail copies of the same files.
- There is an automated email service being developed. When it is
- functional an article will be posted to comp.lang.forth with details
- on who/what/how, etc. and this paragraph will be replaced by the
- appropriate instructions. As many of you who have written me (Doug
- Philips) know, this is nearly finished. Expect word soon!
-
-
- **** NOTE: ****
- EMail is the mode of last resort. EMail archive
- access compared to the other forms puts the
- heaviest load on the network. If you have
- access to other methods, please use them!
- ---
- If you have any questions about ForthNet/comp.lang.forth or any information
- to add/delete or correct in this message or any suggestions on formatting or
- presentation, please contact Doug Philips at one of the following addresses:
-
- o Internet: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us
-
- o Usenet: ...!uunet!willett.pgh.pa.us!dwp
-
- o GEnie: D.PHILIPS3
-